192 art St 73 of TELEGRAM 1 1 hf l rw PAGE 91 GENEVA 01121 01 0F 02 0718442 #5 ACTION ACDA l7 INFO EUR 25 10 21 01c I9JNSC IO NASA Q72P G4 CIA 040000 ZZISCI 05 33 351AEC SAH 93IL 03IARA I9IEA 199USIA IZIOST 011RSC ZIIRSR 019 256 p WE- 4 O715212 OCT 67 FM USHISSION qgu TO SECSTATE IORITY 5479 INFO BONN @724 AMEMBASSY LONDON O914 AMEMBASSY MOSCOW 0#56 AMEMBASSY OTTAWA 039s AMEMBASSY PARIS 1145 AMEMBASSY ROME 0601 USUN NEW YORK 1276 SECTION 1 OF 2 GENEVA 121 01370 NATUS MEETING OCT 7 mgm'a wux REFI STATE 49458 1 FISHER SUGGESTED To ROSHCHIN REVISION OF PROPOSED MEXICAN ART IV 0N PEACEFUL USES AS SET FORTH IN PARA 19 GENEVA HE THAT To MEX TEXT HAD BEEN REPLACED BY IN REFERENCE To PAGE 2 RUFHGV 1121 1 PRODUCTION AND INDUSTRIES HAD BEEN AND To SECRET -- Yam 6 r Lm w Department of State SECRET PAGE Q2 GENEVA 03 21 0 OF 02 THE HAD BEEN ADDED AT ROSECHIN SAID HE WOULD REFER US REDRAFT T0 2 FISHER GAVE TO ROSHCHIN FOLLOWING US REDRAFT 0F MEXICAN DISARMAMENT ARTICLE OF THE PARTIES TO THIS TREATY UNDERTAKES TO PURSUE NEGOTIATIONS IN GOOD FAITH IN ORDER TO ARRIVE AT FURTHER VERIFIABLE AGREEMENTS REGARDING THE CESSATION OF THE NUCLEAR ARMS RACE AND REGARDING DISARMAMENT AND IN ORDER TO REACH AGREEMENT ON GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT UNDER STRICT AND EFFECTIVE INTERNATIONAL 3 ROSHCHIN OBJECTED STRENOUSLY T0 WORD ARGUING THAT THERE WAS NO NECESSARY REASON LIMIT FUTURE POSSIBILITIES THERE MIGHT BE MUTUAL EXAMPLE MEASURES NEED NOT BE FISHER EXPLAINEOI FIRST THAT DID NOTMEAN SAME THING AS INTERNATIONAL SINCE A MEASURE COULD BE VERIFIED BY NATIOAL MEANS AS WELL AS INTERNATIONAL NATIONAL MEANS ARE USED IN CASES OF LIMITED TEST BAN AND OUTER SPACE TREATIES- SECOND MUTUAL EXAMPLE MEASURES ARE PAGE 3 r w l NOT IN SENSE THAT GOVERNMENTS ARE COMMITTED I LAW AND IN FACT THIS WAS MADE CLEAR IN CASE OF ESSA CURTAILMENT SIONABLE MATERIAL PRODUCTION AND USSRO FURTHER PLE STEPS NOT BE PRECLUDED BY US wORost ANTYASOV MADE POINT THAT NONPALIGNED MIGHT LOOK UPON INSERTION or WORD AS TRICK BY NUCLEAR POWERs THEY MIGHT ARGUE THATNUCLEARS WISHED PROVIDE THEMSELVES EXCUSE NOT REACHING A NUCLEAR ARMS LIMITATION AGREEMENT NHENEVER IT COULD BE SAID THAT A MEASURE wAs N01 VERIFIABLE IN SENSE THAT AGREED US AND SOVIET VERIFICATION COULD NOT as NORKED OUT COMPREHENSIVE TESI BAN AND CUT-OFF POINT OF INSERTING OPERATIVE ARTICLE NTYASOV SAID 0 MAKE HITH NONPNUCLEARS NOT TO RAISE SUSPICIQNS ANTYASOV ALso POINTED OUT THAT UNDER OPERATIVE TION APPLY TO NON-NUCLEARS T0 NEGOTIATE ARTICLE OBLIGA AGREEMENTS AMONG THEMSELVES REGARDING CONVENTIONAL SECRET 0 0 A Authority D771 %6 artmem 0 Sta SECRET PAGE 03 GENEVA 0112 0F 22 0718442 DISARMAMENT AND HE OUESTIONED DESIRABILITV THAT HE OUGHT T0 IMPOSE ADDITIONAL CONDITION OR ALTERNATIVELY A POSSIBLE EXCUSETHESE ROSHCHIN UROED US NOT TO INSIST 0N WORD FISHER PAGE 4 RUFHGV REPEATED ARGUMENTS AND CONCLUDED BY ASKING ROSHCHIN T0 REFER POINT TO HIS GOVERNMENT FISHER SAID THAT IN CONNECTION HITH OPERATIVE ARTICLE ON NUCLEAR DISARMAMENTA IT HOULD BE DESIRABLE RETAIN PREAMBULAR HE GAVE FOLLOHING VERSION OF PREAMBULARS THEIR INTENTION TO ACHIEVE AT gE RLIEST POSSIBLE DATE THE CESSATION OF NUCLEAR MS ACE AND TO FURTHER THE EASING OF NTERNATIONAL TENION AND THE STRENGTHENING OF TRUST BETHEEN STATES IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE CESSATION OF THE MANUFACTURE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS THE LIOUIDATION OF ALL THEIR EXISTING STOCKPILES AND THE ELIMINATION FROM NATIONAL ARSENALS OF NUCLEAR HEAPONS AND THE MEANS OF TEIR DELIVERY PURSUANT TO A TREATV ON GENERAL AND COMPLETE UNDER ANDEFFECTIVE INTERNATIONAL CONTROL THE COOPERATION OF ALL STATES IN THE ATAINMENT OF THIS A I Be FISHER EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD BEEN SQBJECT CRITICIS BECAUSE ONE PREAMBULARR SAID THEIR BUT OTHER PREAMBULAR MERELY SAID TO FURTHER EASING PAGE 5 RUFHOV 1121 OF INTERNATIONAL IF PREAMBULARS CQMBINED THIS DIFFICULTY COULD BE ROSHCHIN HE 010 NOT HAVE DIFFICULTY HITH IDEA OF COMBINING PREAMBULARS BUT HAS CONCERNED ABOUT PRECISE CONSISTENCY OF PREAMBULARS WITH NEH OPERATIVE ARTICLED UNDER EXISTING HHETHER OR NOT COMBINED NUCLEAR ARMS CONTROL LIKE ELIMINATION NUCLEAR HEAPONS HERE EXPRESSLY TIED T0 Gco AND THIS HAD BEEN SECRET o w-v- A DECLASSIFIED Authority MVP me I z 2 De artmemf 0 Stat - TELEGRAM SECRET PAGE G4 GENEVA 01121 01 0F 02 HE HOULD CONTINUE BE CRITICIZEO FOR THIS PREAMBULARS WERE INCLUDED HITHOUT FISHER STRESSED THAT US COULD NOT ACCEPT REFERENCE TO SUCH MEASURES AS ELIMINATION OF NUCLEAR FROM NATIONAL ARSENALS UNLESS THESE HERE TIED TO GCD As IN PRESENT PREAMBULAR- ROSHCHIN SAID HE THIS HOWEVER NEW OPERATIVE ARTICLE AVOIDED THIS ROSHCHIN RAISED POSSIBILITIE33 IA MAKING LAST HALF OF PARA CDNSISTENT NITH NEW DPERATIVE PARA av DELETING FROM PREAMBULAR PARA MENTION OF THOSE MEASURES ARE SPECIFICALLY TIED To ANQ LEAVING IN PRESENT PREAMBULAR 0N THEIR BUT DELETING PAGE 6 RUFHGV 1121 PREAMBULAR 0N T0 EASE HE ALSO NOTED POSSIBILITY HAVING PREAMBLE ROSHCHIN SUGGESTED AND FISHER AGREED THAT US AND sov DELs POSSIBILITIES ON TUBBY l I I p gepartment of Stan u a DECLASSIFIED EC Authority 1me PAGE 91 GENEVA 21121 @2 OF $2 0718102 45 ACTION ACDA 17 INFO FUR 25120 21auIC 191NSC 101NASA a7 P CIA 4 000 92 5CI 05 35 llaAF 03 8C 01 SAH 03 ARA 12 097 01 Rsc 01 256 $715212 OCT 67 FM USMISSION GENEVA TC SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 5480 INFO AMEMBASSY BONN @725 AMEMBASSY LONDON @915 AMEMBASSY MOSCOW 0457 AMENBASSY OTTAWA 0396 AMEMBASSY PARIS 1146 AMEMBASSY ROME 0692 USUN NEW YORK 1277 FINAL SECTION OF GENEVA 1121 DISTO NATUS 6o ALso RAISED POSSIBILITY IN DISARMAMENT PREAMBULARS OF UTILIZING JAPANESE SUGGESTION 0F CHANGING WORDS ORDER TO EITHER TO 0R PERHAPS TO T0 FISHER SAID wE WOULD CONSIDER BUT JAAPANESE SUGGESTION 0F DID NOT SEEN WELL THOUGHT PAGE 2 RUFHGV 1121 2 70 FISHER GAVE ROSHCHIN US REVISION 0F MEXICAN PROPOSAL 0N PEACEFUL NUCLEAQ EXPLOSIVE DEVICES AS SET FORTH IN SECRET Authority 7 1X9 3 SECRET PAGE 02 GENEVA @1121 02 OF 02 0718192 FISHER SAID WE PRESUMED PREAMSULAR PARA WOULD BE HE EXPLAINED THAT UNDER US FORMULATION co CHAIRMEN COULD STRESS TO NDN-NUCLEARS EOLLO Na POSITIVE FEATURES ACCEPTANCE OF BASIC IDEA 0F OPERA IVE ARTICLE ALL PARTIEs NOT JUST NUCLEARS WOULD HAVE HAND IN WORKING OUT USE OF STRONG WORD AND SPECIFICATION OF LOW COST ROSHCHIN SAID HE NOULD CONSIDERO 80 FISHER INFORMED ROSHCHIN THAT US PREPARED ACCEPT WITHOUT CHANGE MEXICAN PROPOSAL FOR OPERATIVE ARTICLE ON NUCLEAR FREE ROSHCHIN SAID THIS WAS ALSO SOV DEL 90 ON TACTICS FISHER URGED DESIRASILIIY REACHING AS RAPID AS POSSIBLE SO THAT POSITIVE RESPONSES ON MEXICAN PROPOSALS COULD BE GIVEN WITHIN WEEK OR WEEK AND A HALF HE SAID ENDC NEEDED THIS IN ORDER COUNTER GROWING DISSATISFACTION AND RESTLESSNESS TO MOVE To NEH YORK 1g 0N UAR AMENDMENTS FISHER AFFIRMED US VIEW ON WHICH HE HAD NOW RECEIVED INSTRUCTIONS THAT US OPPOSES CHANGES IIN ARTS I AND II AND THAT US WOULD LIKE TO STATE ONLY THAT PAGE 3 RU HGV 1121 2 UAR AMEND ENTS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF TO EXTENT FRACTICAL PROBLEMS RAISED HE ADDED WE WOULD HAN CONSULT 0N STATEMENTS EACH WOULD MAKE IN RESPONSE QUESTION FISHER COMMENTED THAT MEXICAN SUGGESTION FOR REQUIREMENT OF 6O ACCESSIONS IN ADDITION To NUCLEAR POWERS IN ORDER BRING TREATY INTO FORCE SEEMED TOO HIGH AS COMPARED PERHAPS T0 FORTY AND THAT MEXICAN PROPOSAL FOR TWO DEPOSITARIES RAISED DIFFICULT PRACTICAL ASKED FISHER WHEN US NOULQ BE READY DISCUSS SECURITY ASSURANCES FISHER REPLIED HE HAS NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY HOWEVER US HOPED COMPLETE CONSIDERATION OF NPT INCLUDING INSERTION OF ARTICLE BY END OF OCTOBER ON ASSURANCES ROSHCHIN SAID USSR HID 3 SECRET 0 s m1 WkR DECLASSHUED Authority 14 5 715 Bepartment of Sta SECRET PAGE 3 GENEVA @1121 we or 02 07l8162 DROPPED KOSYGIN PROPOSAL FROM ITS APRIH WORK ouT AN UNDERSTANDING NOULD BE ABLE OISE HAD ALTERNATIVE APPROACH MOREOVER C0-CHA19MEN BEEN PROMISED AT TIME OF TABLING 13o FISHER AND ROSHCHIN AGREED TO cg gNAiuasY DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS ON MONDAY 9- - 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