Is there fth party collection Round Table Dynamic Page Highest Possible Classi cation is TOP SECRET SI TK REL TO USA FVEY Is there fth Dartv collection -23 CLASSIFICATION TOP TO USA FVEY Fourth Dartv collection refers to passively or actively obtaining data from some other actor's CNE activity against a target Has there ever been an instance of NSA obtaining information from Actor One exploiting Actor Two's CNE activity against a target that NSA Actor One and Actor Two all care about Edit Awesome illustration per request asked 3 days ago by Add A Comment Show 9 Comments 2 new Show ALL Comment Blocks 2 Answers _12 CLASSIFICATION TOP TO USA FVEY lof3 Is there fth party collection Round Table Yes There was a project that I was working last year with regard to the South Korean CNE program While we aren't super interested in SK things Changed a bit when they started targeting us a bit more we were interested in North Korea and SK puts a lot of resources against them At that point our access to NK was next to nothing but we were able to make some inroads to the SK CNE program We found a few instances where there were NK of cials with SK implants on their boxes so we got on the ex l points and sucked back the data Thats fourth party However some of the individuals that SK was targeting were also part of the NK CNE program So I guess that would be the fth party collect you were talking about But once that started happening we ramped up efforts to target NK ourselves as you dont want to rely on an untrusted actor to do your work for you But some of the work that was done there was able to help us gain access I know of another instance I will be more vague because I believe there are more compartments involved and parts are probably NE where there was an actor we were going against We realized there was another actor that was also going against them and having great success because of a 0 day they wrotepassive and were able to re purpose it Big win L But they were all still referred to as fourth party answered 2 days ago Add A Comment Show 1 Comment 1 new 6 CLASSIFICATION UNCLASSIFIED C UK TOP SECRET STRAPI COMINT AUSCANUKUSNZ '4th Party' was of course a COMINT and particularly a term long before it was a CNE one or CNE even existed In a COMINT context ISTR meeting a '5th Party' scenario from '70s GCHQ station collected cipher on nation A's internal security comms Broken cipher revealed collect including cipher texts by A's SIGINT against neighbouring nation B's internal security comms so that was '4th Party' Some of B's texts so obtained revealed intel derived from B's domestic intercept targets so I guess that was '5th Party' answered 1 day ago TO USA EVEY Unknown GCHQ Add A Comment Know anyone who can answer Share this 20f3 Is there fth party collection Round Table Your Answer Answer Don't forget to include portion markings as needed For formatting tips see this guide Classi cation Marking required Overall 3 Submit Topics fth partV collection fourth partV collection Round Table Design Round Table team 831315 Content Steward and Paie Publisher Round Table Team Derived from Manual 1 52 Dated 8January 2007 Declassify on 20320108 Dynamic Page Highest Possible Classi cation is TOP SECRET SI TK REL TO USA FVEY 30f3
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