000339 130317377 JU ST Pn Tm Fui nl zm rr I- J Wednesday 26th Odtober l975 I am a Deputy Commissionor of Police of two Trinidnd bud Tobago Police Service On th October l975 two mon giVing thsi nnmes as Joss Vision GARCTA and were brought to Police Headquarters mminsioner and a party of Police Officers Assistant Commissioner IILJ Tr l n ifl rowan ted ha me in of lutt Hr be it $ 10 y w on Friday 5th Pointer I interviswed i man who called himself JOSH GAJCT4 in the presence of enior WATTRNEN Head of tho Criminal investigation Ho 1393 orporsl CESAR KING of the Hpeoinl branch and Miss JOY who noted no Interprete's I Through the interpreters I informed GAECTL who I own and that in charge of the ensniriss regarding the crash of Cubans aircraft Flidht which occurred off the North Coast of Barbados on the th notobwr l975 I told him that be and FREDDY LUGO verb detainvd is it was that they both know something about the crush no they had travelled from Trinidad to Barbados on the ssid plnno I told him that I know that be and IMHO had Prom barbados to Trinidad iftsr the crash on Plane Flight 400 lesving without luggage nod later booked in at the Holiday Inn Hotel ort opu Spain under the Home of GUSTAVO GQHCIA o ingots Colomhin further told him that when they averse brought to and ssked about their luggage by Ell be in l l said that his luggage was stolen from tsni i I showed him several documents and other articles which were found on him at the time be was detained among which Was a key No 61 for a room at the Village Beach Hotel in Barbados I told him that I wished him to tell me what he knew about this matter and request ed a statement of him He gave me a statemsnt which is appended and marked l' for identification This s atement is dated J ch October 1976 In this statement JOSH GARCIA told me I that his correct name Was UERHAN RICARDO LOEAHG Ceduls that everything else in passport was false except for his photograph On Saturday 9th October 1976 I interviewed FREDDY LUWO I told him who I was and that I was investigating the crash of Cubans Flight which occurred around 5 00 p m on 6th October 1975 off the North Coast of Barbados I told him in the presence of Senior Superintendent Miss JOY HELSHALL and No 6832 Corporal OSCAR KING Interpreters that he and HERMAN RICARDO LOZANO had on the 6th October 1976 travelled by Cubans Airline from Trinidad to Barbados that that himself had returned from Barbados to Trinidad sometime 9 00 p m on the 6th October 1976 by Flight to without baggage that they registered at the Holiday Inn Hotel Spain later on that evening in the name of GUSTAVO Bogota Colombia I told him that I wished him to tell it bossr5 nsmzir 4 pr plane after taking off from Barbados had crashed that 11 ngou Ham-urge Eu s 0003i rereters he knew He gave me a statement throngh the inte which was recorded in writing marked 2' for identification This statement is dated 9th October 19 6 In this statement LUGO denied knowledge of the crash At 10 00 a k on Saturday 9th October 1976 I saw the local representative of the Cnbana Airline Mr GOMEZ and Mr PACIFIQUE Manager of Cuhana Airlines here Mr GOMEE showed me two 2 airline tickets I examined these tickets and saw that one ticket Was a IAV ticket in the name of FREDDY LUGO No 0462 3196735 for a flight from Airlines Port of Spain Barbados 5 This ticket was later handed to me by the Manager of Cubana Airlines and is enclosed as 3' for identification I was also shown LAV airline ticket No 3h62 328h913 in the name of JOSE VASQUEZ in respect of a flight Caracas Port-of Spain Port ofHSpain Earbedos Cubana Airlines Both tickets were purchased in Caracas on the 5th October 1976 This ticket one given me by Mr GCHEE and is appended marked for identification 1- o Galena 1 On Sunday lOth October nt 05 interviewed HEWNAE I nhowed him a notebook1 1 diary the of which showed 'Octuhre nd two l a airline tickets No 915100 in the name of JOUB in respect of flight dated 6 1 October 1976 purch eed in Uenemueln and ticket No 0462 333M914 dated 5th Cctoher in resuect o flight He told me the tickets shown to him were his end timt the noteboo r and diary infers also hire- 5 I asked him 13 11ether he could neeist me any further'arii i231 resgjrect to the airline tickets and the notebook which contained several names and telephone numbers and calendar in which there wen recorded a Home Hr ORLAHDD Telenhone No Tl gl I nuked him L'heiziirer the vliiclzi Ill JiJi-H-il b ui in ho th hooks-3 Her-T and he told me yes He then said that he would give a otement This was recorded in writing through the interpreters end appended as 5' for identification is result of certain receivedleft Trinidad at 3 00 n m on Monday 11th October 1976Coast Gnnru plane TTDP and arrived at Airport 3 59 23 - In Hillhb nl f nil- 17 the Tri sand eliwrae dis Excellency Hr Wilfred knimool I smoke with the Deputy Foreign Minister Dr JOKER GQHES HAHTELIINI and two officials of DINECGISH SUIJRTOR INVESTIGACIDH is a result of our talks I interviewed the following pcreone at the Henfqunrters of 7 - h as General SEOUL Liihni B Pr winin o3 or Dk iH30 hiker I - Dr Joe Director dc IdentifiCecion Tmmigrncion gs Li vii- 3' 1 kw a result of this discussion I received a declaration dated October nigned by EGHACTO National Director 0 Identification ind Tmmirritionl may for identification This document discloses Ethe JR 3 hi5 if cl 26- - 000341 passport in the name of JOSO GARCIA dated 6th June 1976 which was found in the possession of HERMAN RICARDO BANG at the time of detention on 7th October 1976 was taken away stolen from Cabima in the State of Zulia and that the said passport was false I returned to Trinidad at 10 15 a m on Tuesday 12th October 1976 from Caracas On Tuesday 12th October 1976 I interviewed FREDDY LUGO in the presence of Snr guperintendent GORDON WATERMAN Corporal OSCAR KING and Snr Superintendent DURART Through interpreter Corporal KING LUGO gave me a further statement marked 7' for identification In this statement LUGO told me that RICARDO had told him on the flight between Caracas and Porteof Spain that he was travelling with a false passport At 5 15 p m on Friday 15th October 1976 FREDDY LUGO requested to see me and told me that he wished to make a further statement which was recorded through the interpreterS'in writing In this statement he said that RICARDO told him on the flight between Caracas and Trinidad that ORLANDO BOSCH and LUIS POBADA must be worried about him RICARDO and that after twenty 20 minutes of flight on the Cubana Airline between Trinidad and Barbados RICARDO became very nervous was sweating went to the bathroom returned from the bathroom- even more nervous and sweating heavily Statement marked 8' for identification This statement is dated 15th October 1976 At 3 15 p m on Saturday l th October 19 6 FREDDY LUGO requested to see me in the presence of Snr Superintendent GORDON Sergeant'dnthony JACK No 5133 Corporal Oscar KING No 6823 and Miss JOY KELSHALL I saw LUGO in my office He told me that he had thought the whole matter over and that he wished to tell the truth about the Cubans Aircraft crash I cautioned him in accordance with the Judges' Rules of Trinidad and Tobago and he made a statement which was recorded in writing Statement marked 9' for identification This statement is dated 16th October 1976 In this cautioned statement LUGO told me that he was convinced that HERNAN RICARDO was the one who placed the bomb on the aircraft He told me that RICARDO had told him on the flight from Caracas to Trinidad that he CARDO was going to blow up a Oubana aircraft In the same statement he said that while en route in a taxi from the Holiday Inn Hotel to the piarco Airport Trinidad RICARDO again told him with great determination that he was going to blow up a Cubans aircraft On Sunday 17th October at about 6 30 RICARDO asked to see me At the time I was in company with Senior Superintendent WATERHAN Inspector HBADLEY Sergeant JACK Corporal KING and Miss JOY He told me that he wished to speak to me in confidence and asked that 3hr Suyerintendent TATERHAN Inspector HUADIEY and Sergeant JTCH leave the office These gentlemen left the office He told i -- that he Was a memhor of the 3 Central IntelligeHCU Agency that he was recruited by the in Venezuela between 19 0 and G l mrwo that he Was trained in Venezuela and Panama in Intelligence and Counter- Intelligence that he was also trained in handling bombs arms arms with silencers and photographic equipment that the heme conoonv is a front for a group Called which is the abbreviation fer Commander of Revolutionary Organisation Unit that the head of EL COROU is BOSCH also known as Mr ORLANDO and sometimes as Mr thet LOUIS Ponine is the head of a firm known as Industrial and Commercial Investigations Agency that LOUIS POSADA is his employer and the head of that Agency 1 that LOUIS wee at one time employed in the Caldera Government as head of the Counter Intelligence h Division Of the Organisation called gem nu - NHL j that he LOZANO was in possession i of three 3 paSSports namely a U S -passport a forged pasSport with which he was found in possession in Trinidad and a genuine Venezuelan passport in his own name that he and LUGO were in Barbados from 9th to 12th July 1976 when the B W I A Office was blown up there He said that the office was blown up at l0 jO p m on the 10th July 1976 and that the bomb was placed there by Panamaian who is a naturalised Venezuelan and who now resides in Barbados 1 that he CLOZANO Was in Trinidad with a man by the name of OLEG GUITON RODRIGUEZ DE LA SIERRA TRATAIKOFF from 29th August to let September 1976 and they stayed at the Trinidad Hilton Hotel leaving Trinidad for Caracas at 12 noon on let September that RODRIGUEE is a member of his organisation that the bomb which was placed in the Guyanese Consulate in Trinidad was _ue3 placed at 10 00 a m on let September by GLEG RODRIGUEE DE LA SIERRA THAT and another member of the Organisst and that both these men were now ing Venezuela 0 that the Bomb plmdad at Guyane e Canmulat in Trinidad was a CH competition H 1 1h in weight and y brgught i tb Tri i md in a suitcase I made for the purpome in Virginia that the black belt he waS'found qur the Holiday Inn uo Wt fin i e is used by H i Trinidad - irl the warm ha Why httkillad He told me against the Gas r G Wbr m t hmn nsa he knew that Uastro HHS been respohsible for the -killinE-Df poor paaple rb fora Castro first 132131 331 he mu that wing day v 3 3wg pfm ' y yTa1y g r I mam gea ma - -- ingmy y 15% -5- quickly tucked into his shirt pocket that while they were on the plane RICARDO He made other disclosures tube of toothpaste At 8 30 p m on 19th October 1976 the same day RICARDO LOZANO requested to presence of Snr Superintendent Corporal OSCAR KING that he had and he wished to speak to me in 290344 em ar-r 5 He also remembered took out the see me He told me in the GORDON WATERMAN and thought the matter over the greatest confidence He told me that he was a member of the C I A in Venezu and that FREDDY LUGO was also a member-of the 0 1 recruited by him that he received pay through him LOZANO and LUGO was assigned to him He said that - LUGO was graded class D He went on to ay that he and - LUGO had left Caracas on October 5th 197 to do some intelligence work on a Cubana aircraft tween Trinidad and Barbados He told me that LUGO carri Vltwo cameras one strung around his neck and th other in his shoulder bag and these were taken aboard the Cubans aircraft l in Trinidad on 6th October 1976 He said that he LOZANO r1 checked his luggage into the hold of the plane He went on to say that he knew who blew up the plane that the persons were Venezuelans and that they were at present in Trinidad ii at this stage I cautioned him as follows - You are not obliged to say anything but anything you say may be given in evidence He continued and told me that if I use my police brain it would he clear to me who bombed the plane I told him I believed I knew who committed the crime He hesitated for a while and then told me saying that it was in the greatest confidence that and himself bombed the plane He at me for a sheet of paper and in his own handwriting - 4 steps to be taken before a bomb was placed in -hed recorded the an aircraft and how a plastic bomb is detonated This document is marked 12' for identification On the obverse side of the document he drew a sketch of the bomb and detonator and described the detonator as a pencil type with chemicals which could be timed for 8 minutes H5 minutes 1 hour 2 hours 3 hours 8 hours 12 hours and 24 hours He said that these pencil-type detonators were of various colours depending on the time at which the bomb was to be detonated He took a pencil from my desk and told me that that pencil resembled one of the detonators he had described 9 said that a certain chemical is filled in a tube of Colgate tooth aste after the toothpaste is extracted This pencil is in my possession He went on to tell me that he knew everything about the Organisation He requested nether sheet of paper and on this sheet of paper he drew the organisational chart of the Organisation This document is marked 13' for identification He told me that he called ORLANDO BOSCH from Barbados after the plane had crashed and BOSCH told him friend we have problems here in Caracas you never blow up a plane while it is in the air I asked him whether he was prepared to put this in writing and he told me that he would think about it that night and let me know the next morning it 10 30 on Wednesday 20th De ner 197 llCa DO requested to see me He was brought b6 hy office at ll lC a m and in the presence of Snr Supbriptendent TETEEPAH Corporal OSCAR KING and Miss JOY u ecu- 4 - i 1 1 1 Argdtold me 43st L - x the 3 gas - 1 u I21 I - a 5 4% 1 L 1 IE EAT told me th at he had thought the matter over lthe night befonex r- and was pre7 er ed to mabte a written statement and thatrhe wished Ni s to record it I cautioned him accordanc re with the Judges' Rules of Trinidad and Tobago and he made a statement which was record ed in writing Statement marked 141 for identification This statement is dated 20th OcTober l9 6 Among the things he said in the statement was t hat EREDDE LUGO had two 2 cameras one in his travelling bag and the other around his neck He said that one camera was left on the plane and he was almost sure that a bomb must have been in that camera 2 left by LUGO on the aircraft A On' ednosday 20thxoctobar xl976 anme-e ting g c 1a1 ired by the Honourable AtTorney General and_ Minister v mi3 q 3 Hz 1 fo Tegal Affairs uenator RICHARDSON gelled by the my q Trinwdre f'ovornment at which representatives of thWe uyanesew THAEEHT- r3 urbqoos was convened at the Iinistry of National ' 1ecurit3 in Port of Spain at 2 3Q p m Tdabont j iif an iuring the discu-ssion certain discloiures were made as a ref-nit of which the Acting Attorney General of Venezuela -nd Dr GARLOS for Venezuela in Trinidad Ana To ago made rquuest to interview RICARDO and LUGO This request washgranted By the Chairman and Asst omriaricner -ahd aCcompanied the two 2 gent3_emen to Iolice Headquarters where the detainees were inte-rvieved in my preSence Corporal OSCAR KING was also present The Acting attorney General for Venezuelarinter vj ewed both suspects and aftef' the 1nterv1ew the party returned to the Conference Attorney General for 1- 1 Veno ue1 spol-re writh the Chairman and the Chairman announced to all present at the ConTerence that the two detainees had reported to him that theyi were weTI alth- -wise that the i u'ere well treated by the Pr1n1dad Police 4 On Friday ALnT eqq ss a 97 myam eqnest was made to me bv tt 9 Venezuelan AmbaTs gt The AcTing ttorney Genera to intervaew A Q jhe r he for ene uela 1 03 AND was eTeht Qof Dr IRAZABAL And FRANCIS DAVILA of th V en zue Ten Embassy here I saw on forearm a medical dressing Dr told me in English in the presence and hearing QT the noting Attorney Gener TI IorAVenesuela an-d- LOZANO that 3 01ANC had no complaints LOZ TAIO And LUG 0 left Trinidad byALAvA' i' at 1 20 p m accompanied by In n gt A DENNIS ELLIOTT RAMDWAR f Deputy Commissioner of Police I ILUFN FQCH HFIG HUNEZ Permanent Secretary Ministry of National - 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