5662 THE WH TE HOUSE WASHINGTON DECLASSIFJED lN PART PER E O 12958 PS AMENDED 2 ooo - D'fB-F 1t- z l r oJ MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION Meeting Ukraine PARTICIPANTS The Preside t James A Ba er III Secretary of State Brent Scowc oft · Assistant to the President for Natio al Security Affairs Henson Moor Deputy Chief of Staff Robert Zoel ick Under Secretary of State for Economic nd Agricultural Affairs Thomas Nile Assistant Secretary of State for Europ an and Canadian Affairs Robert Hutc ings Director European and Eurasian ffairs National Security Council Notetake Interpreter President of Ukraine Foreign Minister Leonid Kra Anatoliy Zl Interpreter 4 05 - 4 23pm DATE TIME Center Finland AND PLACE The President again It is good to s day on television President Kravchuk I see you meeting was covered widely The President Ho w did that g President Kravchuk The ma n topic was the fight The President like him I SSQM'P-' Declassify on o We were in Brussels and I good discussions with the NACC CU Congress U ss is organized very well t anti-semitism U The U S is Edgar Bronfman Yes the head ---- l OADR The G-7 There is a spirit of unity - The President I think it went When did you arrive U President Kravchuk Two days visited NATO headquarters I I also addressed the World Jew U We From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive President Leonid Kravchuk of SUBJECT i5QSG'f 2 6E6REf President Kravchuk I ad a log talk with him He is of Ukrainian origin He supporte the idea of starting businesses in the Ukraine ¢ money You might get him The President They've got pl to invest some of that Bronfman money Well how are things going The science and technol gy center is a high priority for us We want to get that going ¢ The President So many Americ swish you well You have a good base of people who are interes ed in your success I did want to ask when you can accede to NPT This is a priority for us I would encourage you to move as soon as possible jl President Kravchuk It is rnai documents are ready The parl We have already ratified CFE ratification of START As soc over in September I have no do ly a matter of timing The ament is starting to consider it We have a program now for the as the parliamentary vacation is bts that W' will ratify ¢ The President I had a fairly optimistic assessment from President Yeltsin of his visit with you Do you share that impression' I President Kraychuk Yes it w nt very well The President I had a talk w th you about that about the Crimea ¢ we talked b 1 The Presideoti What flag flie on those ships I asked President Yeltsin that but I c n't remember $ b 1 The President Good How aboJt the Moldovan problem We want to see it peacefully resolved Tithout border changes b 1 MiC@'f From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive President Kravchuk Yes our arliament has already ratified the trade agreement Peace Corps t aining is starting American businessmen were attracted to e Ukraine after my visit to the U S I think that had a good ffect ¢ 6E6RET 3 b 1 Tbe President Is it a nuclea plant U The President The Moldovans alled for a multi-national · peacekeeping force of neighbor ng countries 1 b 1 Secretary Baker Do you want SCE approval of that b 1 secretary Baker would this p acekeeping force go into Transdneistr or just on the ri er b 1 The President What are your houghts about that The Bosnian president came in to see me with a heartrending story of the suffering in Bosnia I b 1 From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive b 1 8E6RET· 4 bl 1 The Presidenc How much do you think Milosevic is the problem Will things get better if he we e out of the picture y8' b 1 The President The army would in the face · of force go back ave to be forcefully put back or 7' The President · Are threats eno gh or are they crazy enough to fight I ask because the Bosni n president said that if they see muscle they will go away C - _ b 1 The President President Moscow There is no si le solution we Kravchuk tried to discuss it in The President Have the Turks een helpful' b 1 HiGRE1' _91 Vi' From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive b 1 j 6 E6 RET 5 S5Qfl 5'f The Presi dent I'm afrai d we re runni ng out of time give a speec h later on this af ernoo n but I prom ise mine I have to will be short U President Kraychuk I for a meeti ng am very U lad to have had this oppo rtunit y Tbe Presi dent I am so plea se There was great satis facti on with your visit to Wash ington We have a keen inter est in your succe ss U onver sation - From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive - End of 5DE M'f