1z-f-Ou o Ooc S • SEGREI • OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE WASHINGTON DC 20301-Z OO J n- ·• ' - J - r 2'£ Cf CL - Ct- _ - -EE July 21 1993 SH CRE'i'ARY OF DEFENSE mIDERSECRETARY OF DEE'ENSE PRiliCIPAL DEPmtY mm OF DEFENSE FOR POLICY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR NUCLEAR SECURITY AND COUN'FERPROLIFBRA'FION - Q u· - l 'f ALBOTT HAMErnOV TALKS iUGHPOINTS L Strobe Talbott hosted a Russian delegation beaded by Deputy Foreign Minister Ham edov Monday and ' 'uesday In addition to Hamedov the Russian delegation incl uded General Staff and Russian Foreign lLnte11igence Agency representatives John Gordon and I at1te nded from DoJD_ A1so present on the o s_ side were Deputy CIA Director Bill Stu deman Hoscov embassy DCM Jim Collins and NSC staff in additiOJ l to Talbott Secretary of state Christopher joined our meeting briefly today Ke he1icoptered to car1isle Barracks Monday for tile ta1ks proceeded to get socked in and had to take a bus back t o lfashingto n The talks were broken into two groups corresponding to the hottest issues in O S -Russian re1ations peacekeeping especia1ly Georg1a and proliferation especial 1y mcraine I led tile discussion on Ukraine focusing on your early deactivation proposal At 'i'ab A are my talking points At Tab B is a non-paper detailing our proposal tllat I banded to the Russian side At Tab C is a non-paper on HBO prepared by State and a1so handed to the Russi ans Here are the main points l I t became quite apparent to us that the reason we haven't heard back from the Russians about early deactivation is that they failed t o understand key aspects of the proposal The garbled version they were working vith vas totally unacceptable 1to tb ellll so they just didn•t pay any attention to it For SEGREI X62100 tft_ - - F From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive DEPUTY SECRE'i'ARY OF DHE'ENSE • SEf RET • 2 example they had the impression that ve intended warheads to be dismantled in Ukraine rather th an in Russia Yes1terday's meeting made important progress at clarifying our proposal and rekind Jling their interest 2 When the proposal was explained to thee the reactiO ll was one of general though unofficial approval ' lrb ey rerna hn concerned that payment to the Ukrainians for mm contained in weapons on Ukrainian territory i mp1icit1y settles the issue of ownership in favor of the Ukrainians They• re also afraid that deactivation vi11 begin vith the SS-19s but never get around to 3 iiith these misunderstandings resolved Talbott and I discussed the fol lowing sequence for moving forward over the next tvo months 9 7 11 Jl 1 X a w preview m7se ideas and distribute the non- j c ·fn 7 later this and t o Horozov next veek JJ - • papers t o Taras n uk lf •E '__ i • ' prepare a fonmal agreement President Cl i nton to transmit it · _ 1 to President Yeltsin late this week noting that this agreement l 1 responds to President Yeltsin• s Tokyo suggestion tlna 11 a 1111Q t • tripartite U S Ukrainian Russian •security Treaty• be devised a · b At the same time ve based on our proposals and ask c Once ve have agreement from the Russians ve will tcy to secure agreement to the same text from the Ok rai nians d The objective is to have in place a basic agreement by early September so that the appropriate conditions are created in Kiev in late September for favorabl e Rada consideration of START and HPT er - L t_ From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive the SS-24s which the Ukrainians will retain • -CF • C --s y 3 Att acimre Dts 1 ' li a J'ci og Points from Dr carter Proposa1 Banded to Russians Non-paper om mm From the Nunn-Lugar collection of the National Security Archive 2 3