• No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 - DEPARTMENT OF STATE Wa alllncto n D C 20520 SECRET Minutes Meeting of the Interagency Coordinating Committee for u s - soviet Affairs rc Si TI us·g_ j seTnsfructio p_f ly Bureau of European Affairs Department of State December 6 1977 U S -Soviet Relations Dr Shulman said it had been suggested that he provide a brief summary of the state of u s -soviet relations at the outset of the meeting He found a mixed picture On one hand some negotiations SALT and CTB seemed to be going forward reasonably well with the Soviet attitude positive The Soviets want an agreement and soon It was clear during the tour of the Soviet governors around the u s that the message which the RSFSR Chief Minister Solomentsev was supposed to project was a positive one On the other hand it is clear that there are a number of question marks affecting the relationship generally This isn't unilinear but operates on many planes Among the political issues we have divergent positions on the Middle East which have widened The Soviets have been intimating in their communications that the tone of the relationship may be affected There are also other areas involving political developments -- in the Horn in Southern Africa and in Angola Each has been fairly active and could have a general effect Against this background Dr Shulman continued there are the individual cases of Shcharansky Ginsburg and Orlov It seems likely that Shcharansky will be brought to trial in December While we don't know for sure whether the charges will be the maximum or whether it will be handled in the minimal way there is no doubt that the case will tend to color the relationship Also the Sakharov case may balloon in the next days He applied for a visa to accept the AFL-CIO invitation to speak at their meeting on Thursday In his preliminary - c ·· · - ·--····--·-···-· • SECRET GDS lMO_ I - 03 Z J l No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • SECRET • 2 he did not receive the kharakteristika reference required for the visa anJ it Is not c ear whether that will be waived or required His speech sharp and tough has been communicated to the AFL-CIO and will be read in his stead if he does not come If Sakharov continues not to receive a visa the case will continue to receive considerable attention The general tone of relations could be affected by such things and the tone which surrounds individual negotiations in which ICCUSA members are involved would also be affected For the most part however the visits back and forth between the two countries and the cooperative agreement bilaterals are moving forward reasonably well Consesuences of P evious Meetin s Dr Shulman briefly described the report provided the NSC by the ICCUSA Co-chairmen following each meeting and the NSC's reaction ta date that ICCUSA is serving a useful purpose Dr Shulman suggested that follow-up actions are probably not being taken as quickly as one would want but the Co-chairmen are monitoring the situation In any event ICCUSA will stay with a given matter until action results The members should therefore be aware that these discussions are not just academic but help identify where advance planning is required where better coordination among government agencies is appropriate etc Preearations for Agricultural Meetings in Moscow up on Grain P rchases Follow- Dr Shulman asked Dr Hathaway Agriculture to discuss the second agenda item which continues earlier ICCUSA discussion on the reporting of Soviet grain purchases and the monitoring of the Soviet harvest After saying that he would have a meeting on the same subject on the Hill tomorrow along with a colleague Dr Hathaway said that since Mr Wilhelm reported to ICCUSA at the last meeting Agriculture has set up an informal system with the grain companies pursuant to which they are reporting all sales they are making expected to be from U S sources to the Deputy Secretary of Agriculture or to him The reports are recorded and two copies kept Presumably we are now hearing of all the sales that are made by foreign subsidiaries and which are expected to be delivered from U S sources Dr Hathaway expressed doubt that the companies would lie to Agriculture since they would have much to lose in that case in terms of future legisla tion It is his personal judgement despite what some SECRET No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • SECRET • 3 magazines have written that the Soviets basically had not made the purchases attributed to them at the time they were here and unless we are now being lied to in a concerted manner by the grain companies they still have not made the purchases It is argued in theory that one can beat the system i e make purchases through foreign subsidiaries which are not officially reported or through reported destination unknown•• contracts which are later switched to Soviet sources But we have been doing a running tabulation and the answer is that as of December l including one transaction reported on December 5 of 500 000 tons we had reports amounting to six million tons of purchases We are watching with extreme care to what extent these e reported as new sales to the Soviets and to what extent they represent transfers from the destination unknown 11 category The answer is that 68% of the sales until now are reported as Soviet sales and 27% were switched from ••destination unknown The bulk of the latter was one 600 000 ton sale switched Novem ber 15 from the destination unknown category Dr Hathaway continued that although it is possible Agriculture is being lied to the information it now has suggests that the Soviets had not made the purchases by their arrival here in October which were attributed to them publicly And they are a long way from fifteen million tons Yesterday -- Dr Hathaway continued -- one of their local people came in and raised a question about why the U S market had gone up so much in the past two months He was given a long explanation on the u s grain market and how the price support system works Dr Hathaway speculated that maybe someone in Moscow cabled him to ask what the system will cost them They apparently don't understand the price support program Returning to the subject of the volume of Soviet purchases Dr Hathaway said that Agriculture knows what the soviets have contracted for from all sources and it is not twenty million but 11 8 million The represents reported sales from the u s Canada Australia India and Hungary for delivery in the period October 1977 to September 1978 Dr Hathaway commented that the Australian Wheat Board closed out its sales last week that it was unlikely there would be more from Argentina He estimated that Canada has committed everything they can get out of their ports in the next few months On the crop reporting question Dr Hathaway indicated that Agriculture has compared our accuracy in estimating Soviet crops with our accuracy on other countries The results are particularly noteworthy in view of the fact SECRET • NQ Objection To Declassificatlon 2008105121 NLC-12·26-1o-s c1 · · '« • • • SJSCRET that tha Soviet Union ha a cloae4 IJYIItem in ontra at 1tith the other countries On cuadian production we · have a higher percentage of eat iulatinq error in the last four years than in the case with the Soviet crop · Australia is the same J the AWitralian crop estimate was reduced by almost twenty per cent in six weeks In short the CIA and the USDA should not be taking the bUll rap they are taking when you look at the record the e tlJIIata o the past four years has been off 2t 21 4 _and lOt This ia as close aa we come to estimating the · · Canadian crop and the crop eporting system there ia about like our• · b to the Moscow meeting Dr Hathaway said that the u s aide next Monday would continue to puah for eVery thi·n9 which it believes the Soviets h•ve in the way of info t on There were essentially three options on the question of economte statist ica c 1 grumble and say we wanted more 2 at the other extreJ'Ile say t hat if we don't get certain things some of Wtlich they may not have refuse to extend the agreement or 3 pilah for 9btaining specific thing we think will be help'ful on the crop-re• porting aide including the possibility of collaborating on whatever models they have on crop y ields ln essence that ill be the area in wbioh we will puab hardest but we will not say' •we will termi n ate if ·you do not qive us everything Dr Hathaway explained that tber is a wide divergeno of opinion here some believe the Sovieta have everything in terms of information for crop-forecaatinql while others aay they have l e as It is irratiol'lal to push them for what they may not have The question of economic statistics will be the main issue on the agendll Mr Lqera State who Co-chaired the 11 eeting in the absence of Vest asked how well the Canadians est ate their own crop Dr Hathaway replied that the weather is much like the Soviet's w th snow falling ao times before the harvest Last year their crop estimate went up 22t over an eiq E week period In response to a furth er q es'tiotl Dr Hathaway indicated that t h u s basically uses the Can di•n atimate as it the Australian's do•• Dr Satha wat said t h t be has requested a spec i • l ·maet inc r with Deputy Foreiqn Trade Minister GOrdeyev in scow and with EXPOrtkhle to go over agl l in our concern a bout the reporttiiq proc eC Uz es We als-o explained t the local SOviet represent ti ves why we feel we need more in• tormation anc believe this has been conveyed to Moscow also A question was asked about the qrain prices the· Soviets will counter tn the markeu when they consumnrate their SECR l T • • No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 SECRET 5 purchases Dr Hathaway confirmed that they will have to pay higher prices Between October and the present the price of wheat has gone up on the order of 50 or 60 cents a bushel This partly results from the announcement of an increase in the price support program The net result from this and the healthy export picture is that the price of grain has been pushed up or Hathaway was asked whether we aren't casting the Soviets as Machiavellian one year and then very stupid the next Dr Hathaway responded that he doubted this since there are probably not more than twenty people in Washington outside of the House and Senate Committees and their staffs who fully understand the price support program and its operation The Soviets have even come in and asked whether an explanation in English translation would make the program any more intelligible to them The USG has taken a whole series of administrative actions which have had priceraising effects • Mr Frutkin NASA commented that the man-in-thestreet only knows that he will end up paying more if there is talk about large Soviet purchases Mr Luers State asked whether the anticipation of increased Soviet purchases after Brezhnev•s November 2 announcement had an effect on the market Dr Hathaway said that the Soviets themselves dd not talk about large purchases but such talk originated here Regarding the impact on the market Or Hathaway said it was small probably because the market had already reflected the rumors by the time of Brezhnev's statement He added that on his trip abroad he had spoken with an individual who operates one of the major foreign subsidiaries and was told no contracts with the Soviets had been signed by the time the Soviets were in Washington 25X1 sked whether in view of the six million l on s purcna seu u'y the Soviets to date USDA is now assessing if the Soviets will be buying another seven or eight million tons Dr Hathaway replied that USDA is trying to do estimates of what purchase and shipping schedules the Soviets would have to adopt to make the necessary purchase of 15 million tons Most contracts are now for first quarter delivery and it is clear they would have to increase their shipping rate very substantially over the current flow After citing increases in Gulf wheat and corn prices between October 11-12 when the Soviets were here for talks and the present Dr Hathaway said that if the Soviets have not made their purchases they will have to pay a lot more We will have no idea of the contract prices however He noted further that there is reporting now of higher than normal destination unknown SECRET No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • W SECRET 6 transactions but that may be speculators co-chairman Shulman in concluding the discussion asked if Agriculture would report at the January 10 ICCUSA meeting on the Moscow talks Dr Hathaway said someone would report he might not be able to as he might be in London Shuttle-Salyut Talks Dr Shulman asked Mr Frutkin NASA to discuss the recent talks in Moscow on cooperation in space including Shuttle-Salyut and planetary research Mr Frutkin explained the discussions resulted from an agreement to use the Shuttle and Salyut craft for joint scientific experimentation assuming feasibility of such a project can be demonstrated by a joint study The Soviets brought together their outstanding people in various fields for this initial meeting which was held under the auspices of the Soviet Academy of Sciences They had clearly taken seriously our insistence that scientific objectives be given priority Mr Frutkin said that the discussion identified five areas for further exploration A separate operations working group is also beginning the compilation of information on the two spacecraft this is not technical but operational information so that we can operate together Because of the Apollo-Soyuz experiment the people involved are fully experienced The operational information for the shuttle on the u s side has alre4dy been published in a user handbook A problem on the Soviet side arises because the selection of five of twelve candidate fields for joint study means some Soviet scientists will not be able to use the program for internal purposes to generate support for their own programs But this is an internal Soviet problem Mr Frutkin continued that the agreements reached in Moscow are subject to confirmation within 30 days he believed all the agencies on Ben Huberman's committee had already signed off There will be a certain amount of follow-on correspondence and pre-meetings before further recommendations are forwarded to the principals Mr Frutkin referred to a point he made at an earlier ICCUSA meeting that the NASA staff is still not certain that the possibilities for Shuttle-Salyut projects can be developed in such a way to meet criteria recently established These criteria are rather stringent and one of them is that the experiments we undertake should be competitive with domestic projects for funding We may reach a situation where political factors will require the softening of the criteria in the case of such experiments SECRET f lf 'l lhior ti' 'n T f 'l no -l· uo cifir- tif n ' unc I' 1 f 11 r 1 ' ' t 1 n L 1 No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 N LC-12-26-1 0-8-1 • SECRET • 7 Mr Frutkin said the US delegation in Moscow pursued a side discussion with Chairman Kirillin of the State Committee for Science and Technology and expressed our unhappiness that there is little or no significant cooperation with the Soviets on the planetary side We had suggested planetary cooperation in the past but the Soviets did not want to pursue it Their reason was probably legitimate -- it is expensive and they did not want to do more than one major thing at a time The idea of raising it with Kirillin was to induce the Soviet Academy to besomewhat more forthcoming Dr Press wrote to Kirillin to ask that there be a meeting we presented our side and Interkosmos Chairman Petrov countered with a written unconstructive rebuttal which he read Gvishiani was present with Kirillin and his performance was interesting he alone seemed to understand US concerns and was able to turn Petrov around on the spot We will be pursuing exchanges with respect to future planning to develop complementarity etc Dr Shulman asked Dr Huberman OSTP whether he had any comment Dr Huberman referred the ICCUSA members to Dr Brzezinski's November 7 memorandum to Dr Press which was keyed to the Moscow meeting With reference to the successful trade-off involving planetary cooperation he cited the last paragraph which speaks of the importance of pursuing trade-offs to enhance the benefits of technical cooperation with the Soviets the Soviets should be made to understand that we expect them to be more forthcoming The more measured approach adopted in the S and T Agreement was also endorsed in Dr Brzezinski's memorandum Dr Huberman said both approaches should be taken as general guidance Dr Shulman alluding to Mr Frutkin's comment on NASA's criteria said that at some point the question of what criteria should be applied in weighing the substantive as well as political advantages of technical cooperation with the Soviets may have to be addressed Dr Shulman noted in passing that there will be an inauguration of the satellite communications bot-line within the next few weeks with some minor ceremonies marking the occasion Trade and Economic Council Meeting in Los An2eles Dr Shulman asked Ms Searing Treasury to comment on the annual session of the US-USSR Trade and Economic Council which met in Los Angeles November 14-15 Dr Shulman noted that although ICCUSA is not intended to be a forum for airing the details of bilateral activities with SECRET No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • SECRET • 8 the Soviets activities such as the Trade and Economic Council meeting are of more general interest Ms Searing said the meeting could be called a success It demonstrated a large number of u s firms are interested in trade wDb the Soviet Union Five hundred persons were in attendance at various times and about four hundred businessmen participated A number of figures have been cited on the value of the contracts signed with the Soviets but Commerce is using an estimate of around $80 million Three USG officials spoke Under Secretary of State Habib Treasury Secretary Blumenthal and Commerce Secretary Kreps Secretary Blumenthal noted some overall signs of progress he mentioned the improvement in the political tone and signs of progress in the emigration rate trends which could lead to a normalization of trade In addition he mentioned the President's meeting with Patolichev and the President's hope expressed to Patolichev that the trade relationship will continue to expand and rade could be normalized Referring to Secretary Kreps' speech MS Searing said she dealt with a number of elements of the economic relationship and specifically focussed on the pros and cons of LNG projects in the Soviet Union She spoke favorably about these projects but did not feel that Ex-Im credits were essential for them to go forward On the Soviet side the emphasis at the Council meeting was on MFN and credits essentially Dr Shulman asked Mr Reich to what extent Secretary Kreps' speech was intended to float the LNG question and prod our side to examine it Mr Reich indicated there is a push under way to bring about a clarification of u s policy so that companies can more readily explore p ospects That is being looked into now and we will be seeing how to advance thoughts on behalf of companies who have felt uncertainty Mr Reich agreed that Secretary Kreps intended to prod the Government Asked about the clearance process involved in Secretary Kreps' speech Mr Thompson DOE thought there might have been some confusion The question of policy on LNG projects did arise and DOE is currently trying to determine just what our policy is Dr Shulman asked where the action was now and Mr Thompson cited a study group and public hearings on LNG scheduled in early January Such hearings are required because of the policy implications Mr Reich said that Commerce should be working with DOE Mr Thompson explained that procedures are being developed within DOE SECRET No OhiPr tinn Tn n rl lc c ifil ltir n 'lnnAtnt l'l1 1 11 r 1 'I 'JC 1 n 0 1 No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 SECRET 9 which will bring in other agencies Dr Shulman suggested that consultations among the agencies did not appear adequate but he assumed they would be moving togethe z - on this question Mr Reich interjected that Secretary Kreps' speech was fully gone over by State and NSC Mr Luers noted that there are two questions one relating to LNG in general and the other whether we want to get involved with the Soviets Even if decisions are made with regard to the former question the remaining question of whether we should get involved with the Soviets is an NSCtype question Mr Thompson said that the two questions which were linked were whether we wanted to get involved with LNG imports and from whom But Mr Thompson acknowledged that many of the questions involved concerned the NSC and they couldn't be readily separated Joint Committee Meeting en Environme t Dr Shulman asked Mr Shostal EPA to discuss the Joint Committee meeting on environment in Washington November 14-18 Mr Shosta1 reported that the meeting went very well it was businesslike and the psychological atmosphere was positive The Soviets raised no political issues and agreed on new activities In a number of fields where activity had previously been limited to visits we are now moving into joint work Mr Shostal said that in a private conversation u s Co-chairman Costle expressed to his Soviet counterpart the importance we attach to mutual benefit and access to Soviet facilities Mr Castle also raised the delicate question of the heavy-handed behavior of the Soviet security people at two recent symposia in Tashkent and Yerevan Castle pointed out to Soviet co-chairman Izrael that such behavior is not useful since it discourages U S scientists from wanting to go to the USSR Izrael responded to Castle that if such things happen in the future his representative at the meeting should be notified immediately Mr Shostal suggested that this might be useful advice for u s officials attending other meetings in the Soviet Union Such incidents should of course be reported to the Embassy Dr Shulman wondered if Mr • Shostal interpreted the incidents as an excess of local zeal Mr Shostal believed they were Mr Frutkin NASA noted that NASA officials have not encountered this type of behavior Mr Frutkin asked about the clearance procedures p oposed by U S agencies in effect for joint activities SECRET No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • • 10 SECRET Mr Frutkin noted that there are differences between the way agencies clear their activities NASA takes the position that anything which NASA is prepared to do should be done the same way as if it were done directly NASA would want to know that the activities it supports are cleared in the same careful way it would clear anything directly This has delayed one or two activities One of NASA's people going to Leningrad under another agency's agreement thought he had to sign some type of agreement there was no agreement that he should bring it back to the u s for final approval NASA always requires subsequent Washington clearance Official Exchanges Review Talks Mr Wilkinson State briefly described the talks in Moscow the previous week The purpose was to review the implementation of the cultural program which had already been agreed through 1979 The talks were detailed the atmosphere was constructive Mr Wilkinson said we pressed the Soviets on access to archives a problem which usually assumes importance as the American scholars become involved in their research later in the academic year The Soviets were defensive on this question and our scholars have no specific problems at this time We also raised the question of the issuance of exit visas to American exchange scholars at the time they receive entry visas The soviet side conceded in principle that our scholars could have exit visas but said the problem should be dealt with in the bilateral consular review talks We will follow up here Mr Wilkinson continued that the Soviet side criticized the American side for incidents and demonstrations involving their groups here but did not follow through on earlier Soviet threats to cancel the continuation of the program of exhibits through 1979 The upshot of the Moscow meeting is that both sides will continue to implement the program already agreed to and the traditional battle-lines have been carried forward to 1979 when there will be a renegotiation Mr Luers State responding to Dr Shulman's question said that the Los Angeles exhibit turned out to be a great success for the Soviets even though it was expected to create serious problems There was a counter-exhibit in the same building and only a few minor incidents The city of Los Angeles rolled out the red carpet and the soviets felt very positive after the event closed Mr Wilkinson State added as a postscript that the leaders of the SECRET • • No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 SECRET ll • Jewish groups which had mounted the counter-exhibit felt that it too was a success and a similar exhibit should be arranged at each future Soviet exhibit in the us Soviet Governors' Visit Dr Shulman asked Mr Garrison State to comment on the visit of the Soviet Governors who were in the US November 22-29 Mr Garrison noted that the exchange between the National Governors Association and regional leaders in the Soviet Union has been going on for several years This particular Soviet group went to visit governors in Massachusetts Iowa South Dakota California and ended in Washington They were received on the Hill by Vice President Mondale and saw Secretary Vance The head of the delegation a member df top leadership came with a message in two parts 1 that the Soviet Union wants not just good relations but friendly relations with the United States and 2 that contacts between American and Soviets at all different levels are a good thing--which is an echo of what we have been saying for years Dr Shulman noted that a meeting between the head of the Soviet delegation Solomentsev the Chief Minister of the RSFSR and the President fell through A Soviet subsequently observed that in the past comparable groups of Americans had access to top Soviet officials and there was some question whether that would continue to be the case Dr Shulman said we will have a similar problem when a delegation of the Supreme Soviet visits in January We hope we can handle the situation more expeditiously Our feeling is that it would have been valuable for the President to have seen Solomentsev Mr Reich Commerce said that he understood that the soviet Governors also came with the message that there should be expanded trade on a nondiscriminatory basis We might use the governors' exchange mechanism to promote trade the development agencies of the states might be utilized One problem with this possibility in Dr Shulman's view was that on the Soviet side there is no central contact point like the National Governors Association the Soviets were in effect a pick-up group USSR Socialist or Communist Dr Shulman asked Mr Reich Commerce to introduce the final item which had been placed on the agenda at Commerce's behest Dr Shulman explained that the State SECRET No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-12-26-10-8-1 • • 12 SECRET Department's policy has been refer to the USSR and East European countries as Communist and Commerce wished to raise the question whether socialist is not more appropriate Obviously there are policy implications in the choice Mr Reich Commerce said Commerce is presently referring to these countries-as Communist However the question of nomenclature has been raised by American companies most recently at the Trade and Economic Council meeting in Los Angeles and some Soviets were incensed by the usage Mr Reich wondered whether this practice was one we wished to continue Mr Luers State expressed puzzlement why the Soviets should be upset by this usage Mr Reich said it had been raised in connection with the Trade and Economic Council meeting and he relt he should raise it here for clarification Commerce would like to have guidance Mr Reich said he had looked again at a cable which State sent out a year ago which mentioned that the Soviets wanted to blur the distinction between Communism and socialism and wanted to be called socialist This cable said the us should not give in to the effort to blur the distinction and should be quite clear that these are Communist and not socialist nations Mr Reich said he wanted to raise the question and ask that it be reviewed since Commerce does put out literature using this term Mr Luers State said that the idea that socialist be used to describe the Soviet Union suggests that the term Communist has a pejorative meaning for the Soviets This he did not understand By their ter ms it is something like calling an adolescent an adult We would be giving them the benefit of the doubt 25X1 stated that one of the two terms is a 'a escrip- ter o f t - - 9 _ li · __ 1 sY tem and the other of the party which rules said he does not use socialist countries 111 hl S own work to describe the USSR and East European countries because of the Western European social· democracies From a pQJ j gy pQirtt Q_f yiew it would not be appropriate In fact continued it would not be necessary very ofteri-to characterize them either way we have gotten away from referring to our allies and friends as free world It is appropriate to speak about the eastern states as Communist Party-ruled states or in dealing with international economic questions as non-market economies 1 1 SECRET No OhiP r tion Tn n ri lc c ifir tirm nns vn n1 · r- 11 r- 1' 1n o 1 25X1 25X1 • • No Objection To Declassification 2008 05 21 NLC-1 SECRET 10-8-1 13 For obvious reasons they do not use Communist themselves M Frutkin NASA said the thought of a change in the OSG's nomenclature reminded him of the disastrous consequences of President Ford's comment on Poland Mr Reich asked again that the situation be looked at to see if the policy underlying the Department's 1976 cable still pertains Dr Shulman State agreed that a paper should be done Ms Hancock HOD raised the question of securing access to Soviet institutes and areas for visitors to the USSR under HOD-sponsored joint projects The question arose recently in connection with a visit under the Cold Weather Construction project when visitors were denied access to the BAM project in Siberia How hard do we press the Soviets The Soviets tell us it is a complicated matter and will take time But she said u s Embassy officers had visited the site in question so security does not seem the major issue for the Soviets Ms Hancock said she is trying to assess how hard the Soviets should be pressed Dr Shulman said that there are two questions The first is why do the Soviets object Is the area from which the visitor is barred less than a model area in the SYiet view Second how important to us is access in the given case In the absence of a reasonable explanation for denying access and in the presence of a good reason why the visit should take place we should hold firm Ms Hancock said the Embassy is urging HUD to stand firm Mr Garrison State noted that the Soviets may be barring the visit because work is lagging on the railway project Dr Shulman suggested that l Hancock and State officials communicate further about the problem in the next days At the close of the meeting Mr Reich Commerce asked that ICCUSA Co-chairmen review at the next meeting the statement of Goals and Objectives prepared for Ambassador Toon Mr Reich felt it would be instructive to focus on them Mr Luers State noted that the list did not purport to represent the entire USG inventory of goals and objectives for the USSR but rather those of the Ambassador Dr Shulman agreed to discuss the statement at the next meeting Drafted ICCUSA ROber Jr gmh SECRET f 0 hio - tir'ln T ' no - l ceifir-- tir n 0r'lr'IQ r'lt 'J1 1 11 r 10 0 1n Q 1