per t-3 F1M HE Department of State nLEGRAM ®P UNClASSIFIED SICRET HEt SIN 01' i3 PAGE · 0 l 01 OF' CIJ2 P- IJ C A- ' 38 28l82lZ 53 ' • ACTtON ACOA•06 ss-20 INI-O · OCT•t·I L-02 PM•e3 · R c-e 1 • 01 1066 · cco-ee Nsc• i e• sso-ee NSCE eleJ c 1 AE-ee w R 28t 08Z NOV · 69 ' ·••-··-····--·-······•- 082306 FM· AMEMBASSY' HELS I NI I TO · SECSTAJE· WASHDt IMMEtitAtE 21 0 INF'O AMEHBASSV MOSCOW USPHSS-JON N ATO 2· HELStNI I 1·433 9UBUECTI NOY 28 - SAL MEE lNGr 0 - I• SUMMARY BY MUTU L AGREEMENT TODAY1S MEEttNG• HAS QE OTEO TO A DISCUSS10Nt or · SfRAtEG Cr OE ENStVE SYSTEMS SEMENOV LEO OFF F'OLLOWEO BY· SM t TH·• S F'ORMAL · PRESINTATtON ON TM Is· SUBJECT I FOR TEXTS· SEE SEPTELSI SEMENOV NOTED THAT IT MAY BE IMPORTANT wiTM REGARD TO ABMS TO• •LIMIT HALT ANO · EVEN TURN BACK THEiR DEV EL• OPMENT• HE LlSTE5 ··T REE · POSS1BLE · APPROACHES· TO L1MiTiNI ABHSI THE · S·IOES· ·cou1 oi OEPLoY· NO RPT NO BALLlST C M·I SS ·I LES INASMUCH AS WORK· ONr THti SYSTEM§· is· iN THE B Gl NlNG STAGES I A OTHER POSSIBILITY WOULD' BE LIMITED ABM OEFENSESI NO A THIRD POSS BitlTY WBULD BE TM£ OEPl OYHENrr ' OF TH i cK AREA SYSTEMS WMICH WOULD INVOLVE THE DE• PLO MEN OF'l TMEl HIGHEST LEVELS or180TM O•FENS VE AND oE • FENSiVE SlR-TEGlC- WEAPONS SEHENOV ALSO RECOMMENDED A BAN ON DIS• SEMiNATtO B l ME TWO sioES OF · BMS TO TM1RD PARTIES ON THE OE• PLOYMENT OF ABM• SYSTEMS BEYOND TME · TERR I TOR I ES OF TME TWO S l OES ANO ON SEA • BASEO • ABMS• l ENO SUMMARY J 2 IN· OPENING HJS STATEMENT SEMENOY NOTED THE NEED TO DISCUSS AT TME SUBSEQUENt HASE QUESTiONS CONCE NING BO H- OFFENSIVE ANO ciEFtNSl E STRATEGif WEA ONS CO RESPONOING TO TME PREVIOUS EX• U S NIMS ___ AND DISARMAMENT AGENCY Ile I Idll• •c'7'' '9 lllllfa C In part br '· - • n 111 secyr llNClASSIFIED Department of State TELEGRAM UClASSIFIED BCRET P GE 92 HELSlN Sl i3 01 OF 12 28l821Z CHANGE OF V1EWS ' IN WHICH tr· WAS AGREED THAT ' SVSTEHS oF· EFENSE AGAINST BAL L •I S IC MISS-I LES WOULD BE DISCUSSED ALONG W Tlol •OF'• FENStVE STR TEG C WEAPONS I SEMENOV THUS· L1 M·I TED H'I S STATEMENT TO ABMS ANO D l D NOT PT NOT INCLUDE A OUSC SSION OF SAHSel 3 SEMENOW No Eo M1S AGREEMENT NTTH SMITH•S EARLIER STATE• MENT THAT - OFFtNS1VE ANO DEFENSlijE TRATEGlC WEAPONS MUST BE REGARDED AS I NTERRELjTED • NEW OPIFENS I VE SYSTEMS· G• VE R1SE TO DEFENSIVE ARMS WHICH iN THEI TURN STIMULATED THE QUANTITATIVE OROWTH ANO IM ROVEMENT OF ' OFFEN 1VE ARMS• ••- SEMENOV AGREED WITH SHJTH•S E RL1ER STlTEMENT OF NOV• 20 THAT THE DEPLOYMENT' y ONE SIDE· OF DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS CAN DRIVE THE OTHER SlOE TO COMPENSATING tNREASES OR IMPROVEMENTS OF ITS OFFENSIVE FORCES• SEMENOV ADDED THAT THIS COULD TAKE jHE FORM OF DEPLO'I' I NG MEANS· OF' PENETRATl NG · HE' ABM DEFENSES• QN THE OTHER HANO THE REAC ING S10E MAY CH006E TO CREATE CORRESPONDING MEANS OF ' DEFENSE AGAINST ' A' MISSILE AT CK OR IT MAY CHOOSE Bon-1 5 CONTINUING H S GEN RAL ' REMARKS SEMENOV NOTED THAT ABM DEFENSES ARE ' A CLEAR I LLUSTRATlON OF· THE UNEXPECTED TURNS WHICH OCCUR' JN THE DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGIC SYSTEMS ev APPL'l'JNi MODERN TECMNOLOG¥s IT MAY BE IMPORTANT TO LaMIT STOP AND EVEN TURN BACK THE R DEVELOPMENT IN TlME ORIGINALL THE DEVELOPMENT OF ABMS FOR DEFENSE OF CITlES ANO POPUL TIONS APPEARED to THE DESIGNERtS MI NO TO H VE · AN EXCLUSl VEL'I' MUMINE PUOPOSE • THE ONLrf PROBLE•M WAS TO OVERCOME THE ENORMOUS· TECHNIC Li oiFFlCULTtES• HOWEVER AS TIME WENT ON WHEN MEANS' OF' · OVERCOMlN THESE PROBLEMS WERE OE• TERMINEO IT BECAME CLEAR THAT DEFENSIVE WEAPONS COULD TO A CERTAIN OE REE BECOME OFFENSIVE AS THE¥ COULD PUf IN OOUBi THE INEVITABILITY OF RETALlATlON• 6• SEMENOV THEN PUT FORTH SEVERAL HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLES AS TO HOW THE ABM PROBLEM COULD BE HANDLE HAVING JN MINO THE ASSURANCE OF SECURITY OF BOTH SI DES• FlRST HE POSED THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE TWO SIDES WOULD NOT DEPLOY ANY ABM DEFENSES• THtS WOULD BE POSSIBLE INASMUCH AS WORK ON ABM SYSTEMS IS AT A BEGINNING STAGE• HOWEVER IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO DEAL WITH THE QUESTJONS CONNECTED WITH DEFENSE AGAINST POSSIBLE UNAUTHORIZED LAUNCHES OR PROVOCATIONS ON THE PART OF THIRD COUNTRIES• - • SECRET llNCUSSIFIED • ' i Department of State • ' 'a o1 TELEGRAM NNCUSSIFIED SBCRET PAGE 03 HELSIN 01 33 01 OF 02 281821Z 7 T E ECOND POSSlBILlTY WOULD BE FOR BOTH SIDES TO AGREE ON CERTAIN L MJTED· ABM SYSTEMS• IN OEFJNlNG TME ACCEPTABlLlTY OF THE LEVELS OF STIU TEG i C OFF ENS IVE ' ARMS · l T WOULD BE NECESSARV TO TA E INTO ACCOUNT fHE SIZE OF T E DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS THEIR NATURE WHAT ' INST LL TlONS · T1-1EY ARE r OESiGNED TO DEFEND ANO THE eIS• POSITION o E'EMEN S OF THE SYSTEM • A THIRD VARIATION WOULD BE TME DEPLOYMENT OF THICIC AREA ABM SYSTEMS '• IN THIS CASE WE 190ULO IE DEALING WITH· THE HIGHEST LEVELS CF'l BOTH OFFENsivE AND ' OE ENSIVE S1RATEGIC WEAPONS DEPLOYMENT BY ONE i SIDE OF' 1 ABMS Tl-US LEVEL l' C OULB 1 EVOICE · A SENSE OF CONFIDENCE IN EVADING • A RETAU ATORY· STRIKE· ANO COULD TEMPf fT TO EHP OY STRA1EGI OF ENStVE SfSTtMS AG•INST THE OTHER COUNTRY S SMITH MENTIONED IN HIS NOV I STATEMiNT 80 o 9• THUS SEMENOV CONTI UEO THE ABM QUESTION ·HAS AN INFLUENCE ON HE ENTIRE PROBLEM OF ' LlMITiNG TME STRATEGI ARMS RACE IT SHOULD BE OISCUSSEO FULLY AT TME· NEXT PHASE IN THE TALKS T KING INTO ACCOUNT THE ' REAL ' Sf1UAT10N EXISTING AT THE RESENT TIME IN PARTICUL R THERE IS THE QUESTION OF THE OEF ENSE BV ONE I s ·I OE BY ' ABM SYSTE Ms · OF OFF'ENS I VE STRATE ' C WEAPONS IN OTHER INST LLATIONS LOCAtEo AT SIGNIFlCAN DISTiNcES FROM ONE ANOTHER TMIS COULD CAUSE THE OTHER SIDE TO HAVE ooueTS IN CONNECTION WITH TME ' POSSIIILtiY OF CONVERTING fN TlME S CH A OEPLOVEO $vsTEM INTO ONE 1 FACILIT ATlNG THE• CARRYING OUT OF' A FIRST STRIKE EMiNOV THEN ASKED F'OR 'THE VtEWS OF' THE AMER I CAN SI OE ON TH IS COMPLE OF ISSUES• 10• SEMENOV ·coNCLUDEo HIS GENERAL REMARKS - BY RECOMMENDING A BAN ON TME OISSEMINATIN OF' ' ABMS TO 'THIRD COUNTRiES ON DEPLOYING ABMS OU St-OE ' o i NATION L ' TERRITGRIES ANO ON SEA•BASEO SYSTEMS• ll• F NAL V ' SEMENOV ANNOUNCED TH•T THE SOVIET OELEGATlN INTENOED 1 AT 7 THE• FOLLOWING' SESSION TO RAISE $EVE AL ' QUESTINS CON• CEANINB 1 VE lFlCATION ANO MEASU Es oIHINlSHlNG· THE DANGER OF THE OUT REAK 0 ' NUCLEAR WAR BETWEEN THE UeS AND THE USSRe SMITH UNCLASSIFIED SICRET PAGE 01 HELSIN 01 a 3 02 OF' fJ2 lt'6-3 28l821tZ 53 · 'H ACT ION AC A•I I NF'O• OCT •l·l PH•t 13 L •02 • ss-20 - RSC•QH cco-ee sso ee Nsci- i I · C'I AE•IIIJ NSClir-80 ·DODEwlUJ EUR• 1 2 ' i ' LE•I i 966 · W 0 R 28 -t 10az - NOV 6 ' ··-·····-····-······· 1823911J FM· AHEMBASS · HELStNIC TO · SECS' ' ATE' IOSHOC J MHED·I ATE ' 2l 4 INF'O AMEHBASSY MOSCOW USMISSlON NATO S' E C• R E1 T SEC f't ON 2 Ot 'f 2· HELS J NI l 1t33 Lil HO·I S s- L 1'0- 53 iz REB oNSE -SHtTHI AGREED - TO l' TMis i PROC ciUR f BU ASK a - OR · CLAR 1 F·t c Ti ON a sEMENov ·ts L ST REN RKS -SEHENOV '·Re PL I Eo· IN IN HtNDt A oiscuss1-0N1 eo'i'M oF VERi ie ttoN AND •OF' MEASURE · J'O· DHIUU M t TME ' 'THREAT OF'' WAR AND ·PERH'AflS SE v RAL •OT HERS i' -tAT ' HE H 0· rj SEMENOV AGREE6 ' O SHITM S EWtOUS SUO STiON THAr EXT WEEK TME TWO DELEGATlONS· SHOULD ' GET •DOWN TO ACTU LL ' FORMULATING A WORK PROGRAM FOR TH SUBSEQUEN1i' · PMAS r o • TALKS ·• ME 1 ALSQ· ·sA i-o THAT HE · WOUL D ' COMMENT AT A Li TERt DATE ON '· SHITH•S STATEMENY REG -Rt lNO i'l--' $CY JET ' NON DiSSIUHNAT ioN PROPOSAL• c iTt N1S1 Alf Ar'f lLLUST-R TtON A PEASANIT' WMO WAlTS FOR His · CRo H • INrt'lMAT 0 TMAT THE USSR MIGHT eE· PREP Rerr TO ITS · TtME' ON TMtS PROPOSiL - 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