UNCLASSIFIED h SEt RET ISLAMA PAGE 01 ACTION NODS-00 INFO 10276 01 OF 03 060600Z ADS-00 000 W ------------------363754 0 060335Z JUL 82 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 5397 RELEASED IN FULL OCT-00 060605Z 11 SECRET SECTION 01 OF 03 ISLAMABAD 10276 DECAPTIONED NODIS FOR THE SECRETARY FROM AMBASSADOR WALTERS PLEASE PASS TO S AL E O 12065 RDS-1 3 7 6 02 KING B OR-M TAGS PEPR PINR MNUC PK SUBJECT MY FINAL MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ZIA REF A ISLAMABAD 10238 B ISLAMABAD 10239 1 S - ENTIRE TEXT DEPARTMENT REPEAT TO LONDON TO HOLD FOR AMBASSADOR WALTERS FOR HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH BRITISH 2 SUMMARY AS PLANNED I HAD SECOND MEETING WITH PRESIDENT ZIA ON NUCLEAR ISSUE WITH AIDES PRESENT ESSENCE OF DISCUSSION IS THAT ZIA SAID HE ACCEPTED OUR INTELLIGENCE AS ACCURATE BUT DENIED PAKISTAN INVOLVED DESCRIBING EVIDENCE AS FABRICATION HE HOPED PAKISTAN WOULD BE GIVEN A CHANCE TO DEFEND ITSELF BEFORE CONGRESS INFORMED AND HE GAVE ASSURANCES THAT PAKISTAN WOULD NOT MANUFACTURE A NUCLEAR WEAPON OR NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE DEVICE OF ANY KIND LETTER TO PRESIDENT REAGAN DOES NOT GO QUITE AS FAR AS VERBAL ASSURANCES WHICH I BELIEVE REPRESENT STATEMENT IT DID NOT HAPPEN BUT YOU CAN BE SECRET SECRET PAGE 02 ISLAMA 10276 01 OF 03 060600Z SURE IT WON' T HAPPEN AGAIN MUCH OF REST OF WHAT WAS SAID I REGARD AS FACE SAVING FOR HIMSELF AND HIS SUBORDINATES ON IAEA ZIA SAID THEY WOULD PROVIDE EVEN MORE THAN SAFEGUARDS REQUIRED BY AGREEMENT BUT WOULD NOT UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REVIEW AUTHORITY ARCHIE M BOLSTER DATE CASE ID 02 NOV 2011 201100123 E7 UNCLASSIFIED RENEGOTIATE NOW THAT WE HAVE MADE DEMARCHE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT EVERY EFFORT BE MADE IN BRIEFING THE HILL TO PREVENT THIS MATTER FROM BECOMING PUBLIC END SUMMARY 3 ACCOMPANIED BY CHARGE KING AND DR GALLUCCI I MET AS PLANNED LATE EVENING JULY 5 WITH PRESIDENT ZIA FOREIGN MINISTER YAQUB GENERAL ARIF MUNIR KHAN FINANCE MINISTER GHULAM ISHAQ AND FOREIGN SECRETARY NAIK ZIA BEGAN BY SAYING THAT SINCE I DELIVERED MY MESSAGE YESTERDAY HE AND HIS ADVISERS HAD BEEN SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS OVER THE INFORMATION THAT PAKISTAN HAD SOUGHT TO HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPONS COMPONENTS FABRICATED FOR THEM IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES HE SAID THAT THEY KNEW NOTHING OF THIS BUT THAT HE WAS SURE THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT HAVE SENT ME UNLESS HE HAD GOOD REASON THE PRESIDENT MUST BE RIGHT YOUR INFORMATION MUST BE RIGHT -- I ACCEPT ITS AUTHENTICITY 4 ZIA THEN WENT ON TO REVIEW RECENT CONTACTS BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND US REPRESENTATIVES FOCUSSING PARTICULARLY ON THE SATISFACTORY UNDERSTANDING ON THE NUCLEAR ISSUE HE BELIEVED WAS ACHIEVED WITH UNDERSECRETARY BUCKLEY LAST YEAR ZIA SAID THAT HE NOW UNDERSTOOD OUR WHOLE RELATIONSHIP WAS PUT AT RISK AGAIN BY THE NUCLEAR ISSUE HE SAID HE WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE REVEALED TO CONGRESS WITHOUT PAKISTAN HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE EVIDENCE AND DEFEND ITSELF FINANCE MINISTER GHULAM ISHAQ ALSO ASKED THAT THEY BE ALLOWED TO SEE THE EVIDENCE PROTECTING OUR SOURCES ANY SECRET SECRET PAGE 03 SLAMA 10276 01 OF 03 060600Z WAY WE CHOSE THEY ASKED US TO NAME THE COMPANY INVOLVED TELL US WHO IN MUNIR'S OUTFIT IS RESPONSIBLE ZIA SAID THAT THERE ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO HURT PAKISTAN'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE U S HE INSISTED THAT IT IS NOT PAKISTAN'S DOING IT'S A PLOT I'D LIKE YOU TO BE CAUTIOUS ZIA THEN REITERATED HIS ASSURANCES THAT PAKISTAN WILL NOT EMBARRASS THE US ON THIS ISSUE AND PAKISTAN WILL NEVER AND HAS NEVER INDULGED IN THE MANUFACTURE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS 5 ON THE KANUPP SAFEGUARDS ISSUE ZIA SAID PAKISTAN WOULD GO MORE THAN HALF WAY TO MEET IAEA WITHIN THE AGREEMENT OR BEYOND THAT IF THE AGENCY NEGOTIATES IN THE RIGHT SPIRIT BUT THAT PAKISTAN WOULD NOT AGREE TO RENEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT HE SAID HE WOULD AGREE TO ANY UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED SAFEGUARDS THE AGENCY WANTED AT KANUPP COMMENT HE PRESUMABLY MEANT THIS TO BE LIMITED BY THE PROVISIONS OF THE AGREEMENT END COMMENT 6 ON REPROCESSING ZIA SAID THAT PAKISTAN DID NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO REPROCESS SPENT FUEL BUT HE WOULD SAY TO US WHAT HE SAID TO THE FRENCH HELP US IN REPROCESSING AND WE'LL AGREE TO FULL SCOPE SAFEGUARDS TWO HUNDRED TIMES OVER AT THAT POINT MUNIR KHAN JOINED IN TO SAY THAT WE HAD BEEN IMPRECISE IN OUR STATEMENT THAT REPROCESSING WOULD INDICATE DIVERSION OF MATERIAL FROM SAFEGUARDS HE NOTED THAT IF PAKISTAN EITHER REPROCESSED AFTER NOTIFYING THE AGENCY OR WITHDREW A DIMINIMUS QUANTITY OF MATERIAL FROM SAFEGUARDS AS IS PROVIDED FOR IN THE AGREEMENT AND REPROCESSED IT NO DIVERSION OF SPENT FUEL WOULD HAVE OCCURRED SECRET NNN SECRET PAGE 01 ISLAMA ACTION NODS-00 INFO 10276 02 OF 03 060602Z OCT-00 ADS-00 000 W ------------------363762 0 060335Z JUL 82 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 5398 060606Z 11 SECRET SECTION 02 OF 03 ISLAMABAD 10276 NODIS UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED FOR· THE SECRETARY FROM AMBASSADOR WALTERS PLEASE PASS TO S AL 7 AT THIS POINT GALLUCCI TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY TWO POINTS HE NOTED THAT IN THE NEAR TERM US CONCERN CENTERED LESS ON THE FRENCH INITIATED FACILITY AT CHASMA AND MORE ON THE NEW LABS FACILITY AT PINSTECH HE SAID THAT ANY UNSAFEGUARDED REPROCESSING OF SPENT FUEL BEYOND WHAT MIGHT BE PERMITTED TO BE WITHDRAWN FROM SAFEGUARDS WOULD INDEED BE REGARDED AS A VIOLATION OF SAFEGUARDS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SOURCE OF SPENT FUEL AVAILABLE TO PAKISTAN OTHER THAN KANUPP 8 ON THE ISSUE OF ASSURANCES GALLUCCI NOTED THAT IN SUNDAY'S MEETING THE PRESIDENT HAD REFERRED TO A NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE DEVICE OF ANY KIND AND THAT TODAY HE HAD SAID NUCLEAR WEAPON GALLUCCI SAID THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THERE BE NO AMBIGUITY ON THIS POINT ZIA SAID HE SPOKE AS A LAYMAN AND THAT HE WOULD GIVE THE ASSURANCE IN WHICHEVER FORM WE PREFERRED HE SAID THAT PAKISTAN WOULD NOT MANUFACTURE A NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE DEVICE OF ANY KIND AT THIS POINT ZIA AGAIN ASKED THAT WE GIVE OUR INFORMATION A SECOND LOOK TO SEE IF IT WAS ACCURATE IT MUST BE EITHER A PLANT OR A SECRET SECRET PAGE 02 ISLAMA 10276 02 OF 03 060602Z FABRICATION I AGAIN ASSURED HIM THAT WE HAD REVIEWED THE INFORMATION VERY CAREFULLY GIVEN IT A SECOND LOOK AND WE ARE CONFIDENT OF IT 9 AT THIS POINT CONVERSATION WOUND DOWN NATURALLY AND WE ADJOURNED FOR DINNER AFTER DINNER WE GATHERED AGAIN FOR A FEW MINUTES AND ZIA GAVE ME HIS WRITTEN RESPONSE TO PRESIDENT REAGAN'S LETTER WHICH I READ IN HIS PRESENCE 10 LETTER TO PRESIDENT WHICH I AM HAND CARRYING DESCRIBES MY MISSION AS UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TIMELY AND NECESSARY REVIEWS ASSURANCES GIVEN BY PAKISTAN GOING BACK TO CARTER ADMINISTRATION AND ACCEPTANCE WHICH THESE ASSURANCES RECEIVED FROM UNDERSECRETARY BUCKLEY ZIA SPEAKS OF ANGUISH IT HAS NOW CAUSED HIM TO HEAR OF INCONTROVERTIBLE INFORMATION THAT PAKISTAN HAS TAKEN STEPS TO ACQUIRE NUCLEAR WEAPONS DESCRIBES SUCH INFORMATION AS TOTAL FABRICATION GIVES ASSURANCES THAT PAKISTAN NEITHER POSSESSES NOR HAS TRANSMITTED ANY UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED DESIGNS OR SPECIFICATIONS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO ANYONE AND NOTES THAT AMBASSADOR WALTERS WILL BE CARRYING RENEWED ASSURANCES IN THIS REGARD IN REGARD TO KANUPP AND IAEA LETTER CLOSELY PARALLELS ORAL PRESENTATION LETTER ENDS WITH ASSURANCE THAT PAKISTAN ATTACHES THE SAME IMPORTANCE AS WE DO TO OUR NEW RELATIONSHIP 11 MUNIR KHAN ALSO GAVE US A PAPER ENTITLED STATUTORY AND LEGAL ASPECTS OF SAFEGUARDS ON KANUPP COMPOSED OF CITATIONS FROM THE AGENCY'S STATUTE INFCIRC 66 REV 2 AND INFCIRC 135 AND SUBSIDIARY ARRANGEMENTS 12 COMMENT THE LETTER WAS LESS THAN I WOULD HAVE HOPED FOR THE VERBAL ASSURANCES WENT FURTHER AND SECRET SECRET PAGE 03 SLAMA 10276 02 OF 03 060602Z REPRESENTED I BELIEVE A STATEMENT IT DID NOT HAPPEN BUT YOU CAN BE SURE IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN TO HAVE ADMITTED IN WRITING AS HE DID ORALLY THAT YOUR INFORMATION MUST BE CORRECT WOULD HAVE REPRESENTED AN INTOLERABLE LOSS OF FACE FOR PRESIDENT ZIA HE ALSO HAD TO COVER HIS SUBORDINATES I BELIEVE THAT HE NOW KNOWS THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WATCH PAKISTANI ACTIVITIES IN THIS FIELD THAT HE HAD NOT SUSPECTED PREVIOUSLY AND THIS WILL CERTAINLY HAVE AN INHIBITING EFFECT ON WHAT THEY DO WE MUST CONTINUE TO WATCH THEIR ACTIVITIES CLOSELY AND GIVE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION TO THE AWKWARD AND DIFFICULT PROBLEMS OF RERHAPS MAKING AVAILABLE TO PRESIDENT ZIA ALONE SOME SANITIZED PARTS OF OUR EVIDENCE ORALLY HE WAS CATEGORICAL THAT THEY WOULD NOT DEVELOP ANY NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE DEVICE OR WEAPON AFTER I TOLD HIM THAT WE COULD NOT PERCEIVE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO 13 THE PROTESTATIONS ABOUT THE EVIDENCE BEING A FABRICATION ARE FACESAVING FOR HIMSELF AND HIS SUBORDINATES HE NOW KNOWS WE KNOW AND I BELIEVE HE IS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES THAT COULD FLOW FROM THAT IT IS MY VIEW THAT FOR HIM TO HAVE SAID OKAY YOU HAVE CAUGHT US AND I WON'T DO IT AGAIN WOULD HAVE BEEN POLITICAL SUICIDE I THINK HE HAS THE MESSAGE AND THE CATEGORICAL ORAL ASSURANCES REITERATED TO ME THAT THEY WILL NOT DEVELOP A NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE OR WEAPON ARE ABOUT AS FAR AS HE CAN GO REALISTICALLY 14 TO SUM UP ZIA GAVE ME A LETTER FOR THE PRESIDENT UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED REPEATIHG HIS PAST ASSURANCES ORALLY HE WENT FURTHER AND ASSURED US THAT PAKISTAN DID NOT INTEND TO DEVELOP EITHER A NUCLEAR EXPLOSIVE OR WEAPON ON IAEA HE SAID THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE MORE THAN ALL THE SAFEGUARDS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT BUT WOULD NOT RENEGOTIATE THE SECRET NNN SECRET PAGE 01 ISLAMA ACTION NODS-00 INFO 10276 03 OF 03 060602Z OCT-00 ADS-00 000 W ------------------363766 0 060335Z JUL 82 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 5399 060606Z 11 SECRET SECTION 03 OF 03 ISLAMABAD 10276 NODIS FOR THE SECRETARY FROM AMBASSADOR WALTERS PLEASE PASS TO S AL AGREEMENT ON REPROCESSING HE SAID THAT IF THE FRENCH OR WE WOULD HELP WITH THE CHASMA REPROCESSING PLANT HE WOULD PROVIDE SAFEGUARDS TWO HUNDRED TIMES OVER 15 HE EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT WE WOULD INFORM CONGRESS BEFORE PAKISTAN HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE EVIDENCE AGAINST IT WHICH HE INSISTED WAS FABRICATED THOUGH EARLIER HE SAID FOR THE PRESIDENT TO HAVE SENT YOQ' YOUR EVIDENCE MUST BE CORRECT 16 NOW THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS IF WE ARE TO MAKE IT UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED WORK EV ERY EFFORT MUST BE MADE IN BRIEFING THE HILL TO PREVENT THIS FROM BECOMING PUBLIC WHATEVER WE MAY THINK OF THESE ASSURANCES HE HAS BROUGHT THIS MATTER BEFORE A LARGER CIRCLE OF ADVISERS IN OUR PRESENCE THAN EVER BEFORE AND EXPOSED HIMSELF TO A GREATER DEGREE THAN AT ANY PREVIOUS TIME KING SECRET NNN UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED