UNCLASSIFIED PAGE 01 ISLAMA ACTION NODS-00 15696 01 OF 02 170738Z ADS-00 000 W ------------ ----171654 0 170731Z OCT 82 ZFF-4 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHDC NIACT IMMEDIATE 8042 INFO RELEASED IN FULL OCT-00 170739Z 12 SECRET SECTION 01 OF 02 ISLAMABAD 15696 NODIS FOR SECRETARY DECAPTIONED ALSO FORS AL E O 12356 DECL OADR TAGS PNUC US PK SUBJECT PAKISTAN NUCLEAR ISUUE PRESIDENT ZIA REF 1 MEETING WITH A ISLAMABAD 15676 B ISLAMABAD 15677 S ENTIRE TEXT 2 IN A PRIVATE MEETING HELD AT HIS REQAEST AND RESTRICTED TO FONMIN YAQUB AND AMBASSADORS WALTERS AND SPIERS AT HIS RESIDENCE DVENING OF OCTOBER 15 PRESIDENT ZIA CATEGORICALLY DENIED ANY PAKISTANIK ACTIVITIES IN NUCLEARUWEAPONS AREA HE HAD BEEN FULLY BRIEFED BY PARTICIPANTS IN PREVIOUS TWO SESSIONS REFTELS AND ASKED THAT HIS ASSURANCES THAT PAKISTAN IS NOT REPEAT NOT ENGAGED EVEN IN A RESEARCH PROGRAM IN THE NUCLEAR WEAPONS FIELD BE CONVEYED DIRECTLY TO PRESIDENT REAGAN AMBASSADOR WALTERS PROMISED TO DO SO WHEN HE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT OCTOBER 22 SECRET SECRET PAGE 02 ISLAMA 15696 01 OF 02 170738Z 3 ZIA RECAPITULATED PREVIOUS US-GOP DISCUSSIONS ON THIS SUBJECT BEGINNING WITH PRESIDENT CARTER HE HAD MADE CLEAR FROM THE OUTSET THAT PAKISTAN WOULD IN NO UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE REVIEW AUTHORITY ARCHIE M BOLSTER DATE CASE ID 02 NOV 2011 201100123 E33 UNCLASSIFIED CIR STlillCES ABANDON ITS RIGHT TO CONDUCT NON-MILITARY NUCLEAR RESEARCH PROGRAM TO INCLUDE ENRICHMENT AND REPROCESSING AND THAT THIS HAD BEEN EXPLICITLY RESTATED DURING NEGOTIATIONS ON THE NEW RELATIONSHIP WITH UNDER SECRETARY BUCKLEY AND ACCEPTED BY US SIDE THE INFORMATION CONVEYED BY AMBASSADOR WALTERS IN HIS JULY VISIT HAD BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND INVESTIGATED THOROUGHLY ZIA SAID I KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE NUCLEAR FIELD NOTHING IS HIDDEN FROM ME HIS INVESTIGATION TURNED UP NO CORROBORATION OF THE US INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION 4 ZIA SAID HE RECOGNIZED THAT NOTHING COULD BE HIDDEN FROM US INTELLIGENCE THE CIA IS CAPABLE OF PENETRATING ANYWHERE AND IT WOULD BE FOOLISH TO ACT ON ANY OTHER ASSUMPTION AMBASSADOR SPIERS CAN SIT IN HIS RESIDENCE AND KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN PAKISTAN ACCORDINGLY IF SOMEONE IS PRESENTING EVIDENCE OF A CLANDESTINE WEAPONS PROGRAM HE ASKED THAT WE EXAMINE IT CLOSELY SINCE PAKISTAN HAD ENEMIES HE FOUND OUR ALLEGATIONS DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH SINCE WE COULD GIVE HIM NO SPECIFICS TO FOLLOW UP ON IF THERE WERE GENUINE EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING BY ANYONE IN PAKISTAN I'LL HANG THAT CHAP UPSIDE DOWNMZ 5 ZIA WENT ON TO SAYTHAT HE KNEW FULL WELL THAT THE U S AID PROGRAM ''WOULD GO FOR ADP IF PAKISTAN WERE IN FACT DOING WHAT WE SUSPECTED AND THIS PROGRAM WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HIM AND HIS COUNTRY HE WOULD DO SECRET SECRET PAGE 03 SLAMA 15696 01 OF 02 170738Z NOTHING TO JEOPARDIZE IT AND HE RECOGNIZED THAT THE DESTRUCTION OF US - PAKISTAN RELATIONS WOULD RESULT AS NIGHT FOLLOWS DAY IF THESE ALLEGATIONS WERE TRUE PAKISTAN WOULD BE AT THE MERCY OF ITS ADVERSARIES HE WOULD FACE A HOSTILE INDIA HE WOULD BE OVERWHELMED BY AFGHANISTAN WHAT KIND OF RATIONALITY IS THIS I HE ASKED 6 WITH REFERENCE TO THE DRAWINGS WE HAD LET HIS EXPERTS SEE HE HAD BEEN ASSURED THERE WAS NOTHING IN THEM THAT PAKISTAN COULD NOT PRODUCE ON ITS OWN WHY TAKE THE RISKS OF ORDERING ITEMS SUCH AS SPHERES FROM ABROAD IF SUSPICIONS WERE HEIGHTENED BY THE IAEA SAFEGUARDS ISSUES HE COULD PROVIDE REASSURANCES HE HAD JUST TOLD MUNIR KHAN IN MY UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED PRES l NCE INTERJECTED YAQUB TO SETTLE THIS PROBLEM NOW TO ACCEPT 105 PERCENT OF WHAT IAEA ASKED FOR AND TO RESOLVE REMAINING DOUBTS WITHOUT DELAY 7 ZIA SAID HE IS AN HONORABLE MAN AND ASKED TO BE TREATED AS SUCH HE HAD CONVEYED HIS FIRM ASSURANCES TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN WRITING AND HE STOOD BY THEM WHAT ELSE COULD HE DO WHAT PAKISTAN WAS BEING IMPLIEDLY CHARGED WITH WOULD BE TOTALLY JUINOUS TO ITS INTERESTS AND THEY COULD NOT HOPE TO GET AWAY WITH IT 8 AMBASSADOR WALTERS HAD MENTIONED RADAR BLIPS ZIA SAID FRANKLY HE WAS DEEPY CONCERNED BY SOME OF THE BLIPS SHOWING ON HIS SCREEN HE DID NOT KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET THEM THE IMF ABSTENTION THE HOLD-UP ON THE PROMISED ALR-69 DELAYS IN FUNDING OF THE AID PROGRAM A PRESS CAMPAIGN JUDITH MILLER MENTIONED SECRET NNN SECRET PAGE 01 ISLAMA ACTION NODS-00 INFO 15696 02 OF 02 221256Z OCT-00 ADS-00 000 W ------------------034314 0 170731Z OCT 82 ZFF-4 FM AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD TO SECSTATE WASHD NIACT IMMEDIATE 8043 221258Z 46 SECRET SECTION 02 OF 02 ISLAMABAD 15696 NODIS UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED FOR ·SECRETARY ALSO FORS AL CORRECTED COPY MRN 15696 VICE 15096 AGAIN QUESTIONING PAKISTAN'S NUCLEAR INTENTIONS RENEWED TALKS OF COLLUSIVE INDIAN ISRAELI ACTION AGAINST PAKISTAN'S NUCLEAR FACILITIES NONSENSICAL SPECULATIONS ABOUT ISLAMIC BOMBS HE WAS WORRIED ABOUT A COMBINATION OF FORCES WORKING AGAINST A STRENGTHENED US-PAKISTAN RELATIONSHIP PERHAPS BECAUSE OF PAKISTAN'S SUPPORT FOR ITS ISLAMIC PARTNERS ON THE ARAB-ISRAELI ISSUE HE HAD RECENTLY RECEIVED SERIOUS INTIMATIONS ON JOINT INDIAN-ISRAEL ACTIONS AGAINST PAKISTAN IN THE NEAR FUTURE HE HAD TO SEE THE US INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION AGAINST THIS BACKGROUND 9 AMBASSADOR WALTERS REPEATED OUR INTEREST IN PRESERVING AND STRENGTHENING THE RELATIONSHIP WITH PAKISTAN HE WOULD REPORT ZIA'S RESPONSE FAITHFULLY TO PRESIDENT REAGAN AND SECRETARY SCHULTZ HE HAD BEEN ASSURED BY INTELLIGENCE EXPERTS THERE WAS NO POSSIBILITY OF FABRICATION OR DISINFORMATION BUT WOULD REVIEW ALL THE EVIDENCE FULLY AND IN PERSON ON HIS RETURN GIVEN SECRET SECRET PAGE 02 ISLAMA 15696 02 OF 02 221256Z THE IMPORTANCE PRESIDENT ZIA OBVIOUSLY ATTACHED TO IT HE WOULD ALSO PURSUE THE ALR-69 QUESTION AMBASSADOR SPIERS REVIEWED THE BACKGROUND AND STATUS OF THIS PROBLEM NOTING THAT SENSITIVITY IN THE DEFENSE DEPARTMENT APPARENTLY DERIVED FROM SUSPICIONS THAT PAKISTAN HAD SHARED SENSITIVE TECHNOLOGY E G MATRA 550 WITH THE PRC IN THE PAST PRESIDENT ZIA HAD GIVEN FULL ASSURANCES ON THIS MATTE WHICH HAD BEEN CONVEYED TO WASHINGTON BUT THE MATTER WAS STILL UNRESOLVED 10 DURING THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSIONS ZIA MENTIONED A RECENT EPISODE WHICH HE ASKED WE HOLD IN TOTAL CONFIDENCE IN ORDER NOT TO JEOPARDIZE HIS RELATIONS WITH THE SAUDI KING ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO HE HAD RECEIVED AN EMISSARY FROM KING FAHD WHO TOLD HIM THAT TWO AGENTS WHOSE NATIONALITY WOULD SURPRISE US HAD OFFERED TO SELL A NUCLEAR WEAPON TO SAUDI ARABIA FOR $250 M AND THAT IT WOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ANY EXPERT FAHD UNCLASSIFIED ASAED TO HAVE EXAMINE IT FOR A SUM OF $30 MILLION FAHD WANTED ZIA-S ADVISE AND ASKED IF PAKISTAN WANTED TO HAVE ONE OF ITS EXPERTS EXAMINE THE DEVICE TO TEST THE VENDORS BONA FIDES ZIA HAD REPLIED THAT PAKISTAN HAD NO WEAPONS EXPERTS AND ADVISED FAHD NOT TO TOUCH THE PROPOSITION WITH A BARGE POLE HE OBSERVED THAT FAHD WAS A STRNGE MIXTURE OF SHREWDNESS AND NAIVITY SPIERS SECRET NNN UNCLASSIFIED UNCLASSIFIED