File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R Ford Presidential Library MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON NODIS XGDS DECLASSIFIED EO 12958 as amended SEC 8 3 MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION MR O-IIf · l ilq JFII 1 y t14e c 4 sJ 4 6ttL U 1 9 10 B-1 DrJI e_-- 'tI I PARTICIPANTS President Ford Dr Henry A Kissinger Secretary of State and Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Lt General Brent Scowcroft Deputy As sistant to the President for National Security Affairs DA TE AND TIME Saturday April 12 1975 11 45 a m PLACE Oval Office Kissinger The press at David Brinkley's dinner last night was saying that if you went to Dubuque the reception for you with that message to Rabin would be great They asked about your mood and were you trying to separate yourself I said I thought you were at peace with yourself Braden said he asked Colby if he could deny there had been any assassinations or plans for them He said no Colby must go President I agree the country It is a matter of who and when I want to go into Couldn't I weave into the bicentennial something about our foreign policy Kissinger I have been thinking after last night I don't have to give a major speech each time Just talk for 20 minutes President That's right we have to be strong S T NODIS XGDS The impact is you saying it The thrust is CLASSIFIED BY HENR Y A KISSINGER EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652 5 b 1 3 EXEMPTION CATEGORY AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSJFIED ON _lrn p to det NODlli XGDS 2 Kissinger We can take sections from your State of the World speech and expand it The people last night think within a year there will be an enormous backlash This Congress is really McGovern's because of Watergate Osborne thought your speech was great and the pardon was one of the most courageous things you have done The press is out of touc h with the country President The local press Not out in the country Kissinger The press is out of touch Now that the Israelis have taken us on this year - - this year rather than next - - we maybe have the opportunity We maybe should go for all the marbles President Any reaction from Greece and Turkey to my speech Kissinger The Turks are delighted wanted the money under the table The Greeks are too but they President We haven't heard anything from Brezhnev Kis singer Hamilton said he would introduce something I told Javits if he is a Jewish spokesman he had to talk to me as an American and what is in it for the United States Is rae 1 has done something again I would like to prote st about I told Allon about your talk with Schmidt to show them the concern about Portugal Now it is in the Israeli papers I told Allon about them going to the Germans to contact the Europeans They the Israelis in doing it this way make it look as if they are going behind our backs Egypt is afraid of an attack I think we should tell them if it happens we will formally dis sociate President Should we tell the Israelis that Kissinger When Allon is here Three out of five speeches now on foreign policy would be good Rallying the people should be the theme We should stress the last part of the speech but not avoid Vietnam either President Is the Vice President going to go Kissinger He doesn't want to NODIS XGDS